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 NKEagle  Pyongyang 04 Jun 17 10.21pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This is so so stupid. Is this official proof of humans de-evolving? The root of that mentality is fear. Like Neville Chamberlain. People have convinced themselves that the enemy is rational, which makes it less scary. It's a psychological self-defense mechanism.
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| NKEagle Pyongyang 04 Jun 17 10.26pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Why didn't he speak to the Protestant terrorists then? When you speak to somebody who sincerely believes that an invisible 1400 year old warlord with magic powers will send him to eternal paradise with 72 virgins at his beck and call for killing as many nonbelievers as possible, it's not likely to be a productive conversation.
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 Cucking Funt  Clapham on the Back 04 Jun 17 10.31pm |
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Spot on, with both your posts.
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BarEagle  Monmouth 04 Jun 17 10.39pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
WARNING BAD LANGUAGE I tend to agree. People have been saying this for years. Ouch.
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| NKEagle Pyongyang 04 Jun 17 10.43pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Labour took the decision to talk directly to the IRA. That led to the eventual Good Friday agreement Peace would not have been possible with the tories as they are the Conservative and Unionist party. The Irish people have adapted to the peace rather well without the general thread. So why not just shut up and leave Ireland to the Irish. The IRA: "we want a certain plot of land The IRA had a discrete set of political and legal goals. Namely, the transfer of a certain plot of land from one sovereign to another, and related legal adjustments. If one is so inclined, that could certainly be the subject of reasoned negotiation. On the other hand, ISIS has an amorphous set of pseudo-religious/mythological goals which mainly involve torturing and murdering everybody other than themselves as painfully as possible. how can you possibly negotiate with that? How would you even begin? Make them an offer of 3 free beheadings a month in exchange for no more terror attacks for a year ?
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| steeleye20 Croydon 04 Jun 17 10.43pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Spot on, with both your posts. Really how does Neville Chamberlain failed tory PM from the 1930's relate to the present terrorist What possible relevance can there be???#
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| steeleye20 Croydon 04 Jun 17 10.45pm |
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Originally posted by NKEagle
The IRA had a discrete set of political and legal goals. Namely, the transfer of a certain plot of land from one sovereign to another, and related legal adjustments. If one is so inclined, that could certainly be the subject of reasoned negotiation. On the other hand, ISIS has an amorphous set of pseudo-religious/mythological goals which mainly involve torturing and murdering everybody other than themselves as painfully as possible. how can you possibly negotiate with that? How would you even begin? Make them an offer of 3 free beheadings a month in exchange for no more terror attacks for a year ? Thank you from North Korea home of democracy
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 04 Jun 17 10.46pm |
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Originally posted by NKEagle
The IRA had a discrete set of political and legal goals. Namely, the transfer of a certain plot of land from one sovereign to another, and related legal adjustments. If one is so inclined, that could certainly be the subject of reasoned negotiation. On the other hand, ISIS has an amorphous set of pseudo-religious/mythological goals which mainly involve torturing and murdering everybody other than themselves as painfully as possible. how can you possibly negotiate with that? How would you even begin? Make them an offer of 3 free beheadings a month in exchange for no more terror attacks for a year ? The Unionits had a gaol too - to stay in the UK. Why didn't they negotiate with them?
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| steeleye20 Croydon 04 Jun 17 10.55pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
The Unionits had a gaol too - to stay in the UK. Why didn't they negotiate with them? Whether the unionists want to stay in the UK is open to question after all they would be rid of us brexit and people like you. The recent vote was 50/50 in N.Ireland they are moving on why not leave them alone.....
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| Mapletree Croydon 04 Jun 17 10.55pm |
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Originally posted by NKEagle
The IRA had a discrete set of political and legal goals. Namely, the transfer of a certain plot of land from one sovereign to another, and related legal adjustments. If one is so inclined, that could certainly be the subject of reasoned negotiation. On the other hand, ISIS has an amorphous set of pseudo-religious/mythological goals which mainly involve torturing and murdering everybody other than themselves as painfully as possible. how can you possibly negotiate with that? How would you even begin? Make them an offer of 3 free beheadings a month in exchange for no more terror attacks for a year ? Well said. It occurs to me that, as with the IRA, there must be people who know the individuals involved and turn a blind eye or even support them but who are not turbo nutters like Daesh. Surely it is these people we need to work on. And in truth many such people are pretty angry about our military and other involvement in their ancestral countries.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 04 Jun 17 10.57pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Whether the unionists want to stay in the UK is open to question after all they would be rid of us brexit and people like you. The recent vote was 50/50 in N.Ireland they are moving on why not leave them alone..... More communist style squid ink to try to avoid the point.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 04 Jun 17 10.59pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Well said. It occurs to me that, as with the IRA, there must be people who know the individuals involved and turn a blind eye or even support them but who are not turbo nutters like Daesh. Surely it is these people we need to work on. And in truth many such people are pretty angry about our military and other involvement in their ancestral countries. You know its funny but I wad in hospital in Libya a few years ago and it was blown to bits by some foreign power called UK what a relief that it was in the name of democracy.
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