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Mojo87 27 Jul 21 7.23pm | |
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Originally posted by tonymikejoe
He was very good when Big Sam brought him in on loan for half a season. Liverpool been fleecing too many clubs with their fringe players for inflated prices. Sakho was an expensive consequence but on his day, particularly during his loan period, he was impressive. But all the best Sakho!
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TheBigToePunt 27 Jul 21 7.45pm | |
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Originally posted by CT Charlie
You speak the truth. Decades of being a teacher and coach incline me to modify the aphorism to Lesson taught. Time will tell whether it's a lesson learned. Here's hoping... Well spoked that man. There's none so blind as those that won't see. Hopefully Palace will see that signing players from bigger clubs is more fraught with risk than its worth.
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Rachid Rachid Rachid 27 Jul 21 8.03pm | |
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Soldier. Seriously, whilst the value has been questionable I think we may have gone down in 17/18 or 18/19 without him. Our best performances during those two seasons were generally with him in the team alongside Tomkins.
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ambrose7 Croydon 27 Jul 21 8.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid
Soldier. Seriously, whilst the value has been questionable I think we may have gone down in 17/18 or 18/19 without him. Our best performances during those two seasons were generally with him in the team alongside Tomkins. Him and Tomkins were close to the best CB partnership outside the top 6 at the point of him signing. He was only frustrating because he was actually good. Same as the anger when Bruce and Freedman left their manager roles - it was only because they were actually good at what they were doing that people were fussed. The injuries wiped him out and he was an absolute shadow of himself in the few games he played last year.
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aashman12 28 Jul 21 7.54am | |
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Originally posted by ambrose7
Like many players who play a lot of football in their teens, he's burned out by his early 30s. Add Michael Owen, Wayne Rooney, Micah Richards & Cesc Fabregas to that list. Hopefully Clyne, Moses & Zaha don't go that way. James Milner a rare exception. I can't see this being good business for Montpellier, but good luck to them. Theres no way he is burnt out with the amount of games he's played over his career. He averages a very low games per season.
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TheBigToePunt 28 Jul 21 9.22am | |
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Originally posted by ambrose7
Him and Tomkins were close to the best CB partnership outside the top 6 at the point of him signing. He was only frustrating because he was actually good. Same as the anger when Bruce and Freedman left their manager roles - it was only because they were actually good at what they were doing that people were fussed. The injuries wiped him out and he was an absolute shadow of himself in the few games he played last year. He was good, but not great, and even at his best wasn't worth the money. I felt that Tomkins outperformed him for almost a third of the cost. Sakho is the emperors new clothes. If you didn't know about his cv, price tag, wages, the club we were buying him from etc and just watched him play you could be forgiven for believing someone who told you he was a much loved but slightly comical and error prone club stalwart that had been with us for years, was effective on his day but wouldn't be a top class player in a million years. A big, clumsy lump who was good at getting in the way but who spread panic every time he tried to step outside of those basics. Edited by TheBigToePunt (28 Jul 2021 9.24am)
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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 28 Jul 21 10.06am | |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
He was good, but not great, and even at his best wasn't worth the money. I felt that Tomkins outperformed him for almost a third of the cost. Sakho is the emperors new clothes. If you didn't know about his cv, price tag, wages, the club we were buying him from etc and just watched him play you could be forgiven for believing someone who told you he was a much loved but slightly comical and error prone club stalwart that had been with us for years, was effective on his day but wouldn't be a top class player in a million years. A big, clumsy lump who was good at getting in the way but who spread panic every time he tried to step outside of those basics. Edited by TheBigToePunt (28 Jul 2021 9.24am) I'd agree with this. Sakho showed flashes of the World class talent that he had, especially during his loan spell.... But that's all they were just flashes.
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 28 Jul 21 10.20am | |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
I'd agree with this. Sakho showed flashes of the World class talent that he had, especially during his loan spell.... But that's all they were just flashes. I know what you mean. There were a few occasions when Roy stated that Sakho had declared himself unfit and it appeared that Roy wasn't convinced. Ultimately he was a prime example of what a minefield the transfer market is. After the loan period performances, signing him permanently looked to be almost a ' no brainer '. Instead he became an expensive financial drain that couldn't be relied upon.
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nead1 28 Jul 21 11.34am | |
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The end for him was that dreadful performance away to Chelsea last year; responsible for 3 of the goals if I remember correctly.
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TheBigToePunt 28 Jul 21 12.01pm | |
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Originally posted by nead1
The end for him was that dreadful performance away to Chelsea last year; responsible for 3 of the goals if I remember correctly. For me the big lesson from the Sakho, Cabeye, Benteke, Milivojevic, Van Aanholt period was just how hard it is to sign an upgrade on a limited but committed player. Those five had more ability (and better careers) than Delaney, Ledley, Murray, Jedinak etc, but few of them needed to bust a gut for Palace in order to get the rewards a top player gets, and (crucially)as a group none of them needed to drag Palace to a significantly higher level in order to be considered good, valuable top flight players. They had little to prove and it showed.
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Rachid Rachid Rachid 28 Jul 21 10.34pm | |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
He was good, but not great, and even at his best wasn't worth the money. I felt that Tomkins outperformed him for almost a third of the cost. Sakho is the emperors new clothes. If you didn't know about his cv, price tag, wages, the club we were buying him from etc and just watched him play you could be forgiven for believing someone who told you he was a much loved but slightly comical and error prone club stalwart that had been with us for years, was effective on his day but wouldn't be a top class player in a million years. A big, clumsy lump who was good at getting in the way but who spread panic every time he tried to step outside of those basics. Edited by TheBigToePunt (28 Jul 2021 9.24am) I respect your opinion and I think those who think he was a bit flaky are also right. But when we signed him around deadline day in 2017 we we in a horrible mess with centre back options of Tomkins, Delaney, Dann and Kelly. Dann was already creaking then and Kelly has only really looked a player under Roy’s tutelage. We’d have gone through the trap door IMO. I think he’s been better than you suggest particularly at turning defence into attack but in the last two years has lost his discipline and fitness. He and Tomkins were magnificent the day we turned City over 3-2 at the Etihad.
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Gary St.Andrews Kenley 29 Jul 21 12.27am | |
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This news has pleased me more than any signing. What more can be said about him that hasn’t already been said?
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