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Spiderman Horsham 26 Sep 20 7.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
No. Which 'various govts'? Which 'media outlets'? Which 'political parties'? 'Posters on Hol'?!? Oh. that's alright, then. Marxist? Pretty definite of that definition, are you? Off the top of your head, for sure. From the horses mouth suffice? Edited by Spiderman (26 Sep 2020 8.00pm) Edited by Spiderman (26 Sep 2020 8.02pm)
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Mapletree Croydon 26 Sep 20 8.19pm | |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Seeing as blm are recognised as a marxist movement allied to black power/antifa id say the money raised goes to various terrorist organisations, ergo, supporting them BLM is not a feckin organisation. How often do you need telling? It is a movement, subsequent to which multiple organisations have formed. Are they all Stalinist?
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Stirlingsays 26 Sep 20 8.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
BLM is not a feckin organisation. How often do you need telling? It is a movement, subsequent to which multiple organisations have formed. Are they all Stalinist? If there were awards for pedantry....
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Tickled pink Cornwall 26 Sep 20 8.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Unfortunately there will be 90 minutes silence
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Mapletree Croydon 26 Sep 20 8.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
If there were awards for pedantry.... Stupid comment. Goodness knows how many uk entities supporting BLM have been set up. There is no point looking at one of the US entities and using it as a yardstick for all. Literally misinformation. Possibly also malinformation or disinformation. I suppose such descriptions are also pedantry? After all, who cares about the truth any more.
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Stirlingsays 26 Sep 20 8.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Stupid comment. Goodness knows how many uk entities supporting BLM have been set up. There is no point looking at one of the US entities and using it as a yardstick for all. Literally misinformation. Possibly also malinformation or disinformation. I suppose such descriptions are also pedantry? After all, who cares about the truth any more. The only person pushing misinformation here is you. You seek to obfuscate and it's pretty lame. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Sep 2020 8.41pm)
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Glazier#1 26 Sep 20 10.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
From the horses mouth suffice? Edited by Spiderman (26 Sep 2020 8.00pm) Edited by Spiderman (26 Sep 2020 8.02pm) The first link is a report by Breitbart, A far right website, that reported an interview with one of the founders of BLM, Patrice Cullors on another website. Breitbart take their particular slant on the whole interview, focussing on her formative years on the political scene. The original interview is a haunting recollection of her growing up amongst the black and Latino community and how it shaped her resistance to racial discrimination. So, the link is to a New York Post piece about a Breitbart piece about the original interview. Not exactly ‘horses mouth’ but two steps removed from an original interview, the main points of which they chose to omit. Mm… I would recommend anyone who’s interested (not many, I’ll wager lol) to read the original interview. Your second link is from the American conservative think tank The Heritage Foundation. with strong Trump leanings and diametrically opposed to BLM, who they see as threatening ‘traditional’ American values. Both links express right-wing interpretations, slants on BLM,. They are opinion, not fact. If you consider these to be ‘the horse’s mouth’ then that is a mistake.
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Mapletree Croydon 26 Sep 20 10.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The only person pushing misinformation here is you. You seek to obfuscate and it's pretty lame. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Sep 2020 8.41pm) I see you added another line. If you put effort instead into research you may get closer to the truth. In any case this isn’t relevant to the point. We need to celebrate the life of, and mourn the death of, a decent man who seems to have been an inspirational figure. Edited by Mapletree (26 Sep 2020 10.24pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 26 Sep 20 10.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
BLM is not a feckin organisation. How often do you need telling? It is a movement, subsequent to which multiple organisations have formed. Are they all Stalinist? Very disingenuous. You know exactly what BLM is about and using their brand to promote a campaign against racism is dangerous and deliberately political. In effect, we are adopting an American movement that is related to American issues. Here, it has no validity at all and even in America it is now largely just part of an anti Republican, Black power push.
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Glazier#1 26 Sep 20 10.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Very disingenuous. You know exactly what BLM is about and using their brand to promote a campaign against racism is dangerous and deliberately political. In effect, we are adopting an American movement that is related to American issues. Here, it has no validity at all and even in America it is now largely just part of an anti Republican, Black power push. Try telling that to the family of Stephen Lawrence
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Stirlingsays 26 Sep 20 10.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I see you added another line. If you put effort instead into research you may get closer to the truth. In any case this isn’t relevant to the point. We need to celebrate the life of, and mourn the death of, a decent man who seems to have been an inspirational figure. Edited by Mapletree (26 Sep 2020 10.24pm) I don't 'celebrate' the life of someone I didn't know. I always find that type of language awkward. However, I recognise and regret the loss of a bloke doing an increasingly risky job to a murderer. I anger over the manifold problems within the capital of my youth and those legion of idealists over the decades who are responsible for them.
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Mapletree Croydon 26 Sep 20 11.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Very disingenuous. You know exactly what BLM is about and using their brand to promote a campaign against racism is dangerous and deliberately political. In effect, we are adopting an American movement that is related to American issues. Here, it has no validity at all and even in America it is now largely just part of an anti Republican, Black power push. Ask your Black mates or colleagues what they think. That’s what I did, it was useful.
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