Say no more. Chelsea pressed and shut us down, Liverpool will be the same most probably, Burnley, Bournemouth, Watford, Brighton and Newcastle will definitely make lots of silly mistakes just like we do ..enough for us to hopefully have more fun then they do.

Roy is a joke now ! His squad selection is ridiculous
Parish reign him in ... tell him he’s so defensive a lot of fans will never renew their season tickets. I can’t take much more of this dross. It was fun under Pardew and other managers who are similar. At least we had a go ... yes we would lose but at least feel we deserved to win
Under Roy it’s all tight , stay in the game ,,... boring rubbish
I really want us to get relegated... sick of watching games not played on a Saturday at 3pm anyway and in the big boys league all we do is hope for a nil nil
It’s rubbish ... let’s play offensive players ... get everyone going

Sick and tired of old man Roy ... most people retire at 60 Roy !!!!!!!!

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It has been a tough run of fixtures with more to come.However, the team we have will never be very easy on the eye as we are set up to counter attack quickly and catch teams on the break.

One of the biggest problems is that Zaha has been non existent all season, the transfer saga has totally got to him and so our one real bit of attacking quality in the side is missing.

I agree with some posters that Roy's hands are tied, however if he was given a large transfer kitty(which won't happen) would he just go out and buy more of the same? And then would he even play them unless they played the same as we do now?

My other worry is if we put so much money into our youth set up, we will then need to consider whether Roy would ever use any of them unless he was left with no option. He will say look at Wan Bissaka but if it wasn't for the injuries he would still be waiting for his chance..

I think we need to stick with what we have for the season, there is no point in changing anything mid season, and then we need to look at what money we can use to improve the squad and whether Roy is the right man to take this on.

I think he has been great for the club and has really settled the club back in the Premier league, but if we continue this way for much longer teams are going to work out how to play against us, exactly what 11 will be picked and we will eventually get relegated.

I don't want us to go down like some other posters as the Premier League is where everyone dreams to be, however if we want to stay there some changes will need to happen sooner rather than later.

Some people are like Slinkies … not really good for anything, but you can’t help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs.

Freshening it up, I'd give this a go. Alas, Roy, nor most of my liberal Hol colleagues would even consider it.

Guaita

R/B? (Presuming Wardy's injured)
Kelly
Cahill
PVA

CDM Jimmy Mac

Camerasa
Zaha (on the right)
McCarthy
Townsend (on the left)

Wickham

I would be quite happy to never see Luka, Kouyate or Benteke in a Palace shirt again.

Edited by bifffabazz (09 Nov 2019 10.54pm)

Spirit of 1974

Dare I say it but we need to look to Brighton for an example. Super cautious manager who maintains premier league status gets thrown out for a manager who has them playing football and moving up in the world. I must admit I had them as relegation certs but they have shown it doesnt need to be that way. You just need to get the right manager in and that is the challenge.