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 KAOS  In a tree 08 Apr 19 11.52am |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
This Murray thing has gone on for far too long. When we sold him the vast majority of Palace fans including those on these boards thought he was past his best and that the money we received was fantastic for an aging forward. You simply cannot run a football club on hindsight so whilst it has turned out that he has had a wonderful twilight to his career, you cannot say that another manager would have known this was going to happen.
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si_1967  Surrey 08 Apr 19 12.07pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Most people on here thought it was ridiculous to get rid of Murray and that is why we can't forgive Pards. Okay he got us some results to start with but ultimately his arrogance shone through and showed him up to be the complete tosser he really is.
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| RyWa Beckenham 08 Apr 19 12.31pm |
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Originally posted by si_1967
Most people on here thought it was ridiculous to get rid of Murray and that is why we can't forgive Pards. Okay he got us some results to start with but ultimately his arrogance shone through and showed him up to be the complete tosser he really is. The Jedinak argument is nearly as bad as the Murray one. Jedinak was very poor his last season with us, he was too slow and too sloppy and the fans were getting frustrated. hes a club legend but Jedinak went at the right time, he simply wasn't good enough. Murray has in-fact come good, I must admit I was gutted to see him leave but not many people were confident he'd start banging them in again (me included), just like the board didn't know Benteke would be a flop after the first season.. on paper Benteke for Murray was a huge upgrade and step in the right direction for Palace.
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 08 Apr 19 12.53pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
This Murray thing has gone on for far too long. When we sold him the vast majority of Palace fans including those on these boards thought he was past his best and that the money we received was fantastic for an aging forward. You simply cannot run a football club on hindsight so whilst it has turned out that he has had a wonderful twilight to his career, you cannot say that another manager would have known this was going to happen. Totally agree. My understanding of the situation is that it wasn't Pardew's decision to sell. It was Steve Parish who had been advised that Murray was past his best and should be sold if the right offer came in. Whatever, it's done. Be interesting to see how Brighton cope next year as I can't see Murray replicating this season's form...but then again !
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| Eaglecoops CR3 08 Apr 19 1.04pm |
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Originally posted by KAOS
Easy thing to say but Defoe had 8 different clubs, Kevin Phillips 9, Peter Crouch had 13! Were all those managers so wrong, because these guys have consistently put the ball away throughout their careers? I think the issue is more that different managers have their favourites and sometimes they also think, rightly or wrongly, the grass is greener.
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| VKR1888 London 08 Apr 19 1.26pm |
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I was always a Pardew fan. The cup run was amazing, as was some of the football. I couldn't really argue when he was given the sack though, he was actually given more time than usual given what he had done before. Roy is proving to be not the answer though, not if we want to push on. I would argue we are not getting the best out of the current squad.
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Jefroc  Crete 08 Apr 19 2.30pm |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
Totally agree. My understanding of the situation is that it wasn't Pardew's decision to sell. It was Steve Parish who had been advised that Murray was past his best and should be sold if the right offer came in. Whatever, it's done. Be interesting to see how Brighton cope next year as I can't see Murray replicating this season's form...but then again !
The best front three we have had since the Wright/Bright day’s was Zaha, Murray, Bolasie. They terrorized defenders because of talent and so importantly mutual understanding. Since that was broken up we largely have depended on the individual skills of Wilf and Andros. .
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| si_1967 Surrey 08 Apr 19 2.40pm |
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Originally posted by RyWa
The Jedinak argument is nearly as bad as the Murray one. Jedinak was very poor his last season with us, he was too slow and too sloppy and the fans were getting frustrated. hes a club legend but Jedinak went at the right time, he simply wasn't good enough. Murray has in-fact come good, I must admit I was gutted to see him leave but not many people were confident he'd start banging them in again (me included), just like the board didn't know Benteke would be a flop after the first season.. on paper Benteke for Murray was a huge upgrade and step in the right direction for Palace.
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| si_1967 Surrey 08 Apr 19 2.45pm |
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Also, we didn't get Benteke as a replacement it was Connor Wickham, very much as sideways move really!!
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| RyWa Beckenham 08 Apr 19 3.08pm |
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We signed Benteke and Wickham within 10 months of Murray leaving, I accept Benteke being at the the latter end of that time period, but he certainly filled the void nonetheless which had only been done by Gayle to an extent since Murray's injury. Flamini had some solid sub performances for us,though lets be honest, Flamini only started 3 games, simply because we had better players like Cabaye, Mcarthur and Ledley at the time.
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 08 Apr 19 6.05pm |
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Originally posted by Jefroc
The best front three we have had since the Wright/Bright day’s was Zaha, Murray, Bolasie. They terrorized defenders because of talent and so importantly mutual understanding. Since that was broken up we largely have depended on the individual skills of Wilf and Andros. . Someone's telling porkys then !
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| Loz83 Crawley 09 Apr 19 10.21am |
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to be fair pardew had a poorer squad to choose from, having a players like sakho, luka for a start. the end of last season under hodgson was some of the best football ive ever seen us play!
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