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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 28 Jun 16 4.16pm
Originally posted by johnno42000 If this is true it is shocking. As I posted in the other thread hate crimes are up by 57% since the referendum. No they are not. Will you please stop spreading this lefty bulss***. 57% up from what to what, over how long ? have you ever stopped to think as the National Audit Office has done, that the rise in recent years of reported hate crime, is that the Police are that much better prepared to deal with,record and take seriously the offence. Whilst I'm not dismissing this account, it wouldn't be beyond the LBC to "embellish" some points to suit there own agenda, which sounds remarkably similar to yours. But in your world I suppose the no go areas for white people in places like Oldham and Bradford don't exist do they ? "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 28 Jun 16 4.16pm

Originally posted by johnno42000

If this is true it is shocking. As I posted in the other thread hate crimes are up by 57% since the referendum.

No they are not. Will you please stop spreading this lefty bulss***.

57% up from what to what, over how long ? have you ever stopped to think as the National Audit Office has done, that the rise in recent years of reported hate crime, is that the Police are that much better prepared to deal with,record and take seriously the offence.

Whilst I'm not dismissing this account, it wouldn't be beyond the LBC to "embellish" some points to suit there own agenda, which sounds remarkably similar to yours.

But in your world I suppose the no go areas for white people in places like Oldham and Bradford don't exist do they ?

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Hrolf The Ganger 28 Jun 16 4.19pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Then you have very selective hearing. So now you have to provide examples of course.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Then you have very selective hearing.

So now you have to provide examples of course.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Jun 16 4.20pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger It is a sad fact that stirring up resentment has been a tactic of politicians just about forever. In recent times it has been more prevalent in the form of so called reverse racism. I did not hear one overtly racist remark by the Leavers during the campaign but I did hear a lot of accusation by the Remains regarding racism and xenophobia. Sadly, accusation of that type have been a mainstay of politics for some time when tackling anti EU or better control of immigration proponents like Nigel Farage and UKIP. No one will deny that there is a hard core of far right extremists but equally there is always a hard core of left wing extremists or fervent anarchists. We don't hear much about them. By all of the remainers or some of the remainers or a few. Generalisations swept methinks. Yes it's nitpicking but..
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Shizzlehurst 28 Jun 16 4.20pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It is a sad fact that stirring up resentment has been a tactic of politicians just about forever. In recent times it has been more prevalent in the form of so called reverse racism.

I did not hear one overtly racist remark by the Leavers during the campaign but I did hear a lot of accusation by the Remains regarding racism and xenophobia.
Sadly, accusation of that type have been a mainstay of politics for some time when tackling anti EU or better control of immigration proponents like Nigel Farage and UKIP.

No one will deny that there is a hard core of far right extremists but equally there is always a hard core of left wing extremists or fervent anarchists. We don't hear much about them.

By all of the remainers or some of the remainers or a few. Generalisations swept methinks. Yes it's nitpicking but..

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johnno42000 28 Jun 16 4.21pm
Originally posted by Stuk Do you just read the s***tiest rags you can find? I like to read a wide range thank you Stuk. It worries me a great deal that these attacks both verbal and physical are happening. 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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28 Jun 16 4.21pm

Originally posted by Stuk

Do you just read the s***tiest rags you can find?

I like to read a wide range thank you Stuk. It worries me a great deal that these attacks both verbal and physical are happening.

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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johnno42000 28 Jun 16 4.22pm
Originally posted by dannyh No they are not. Will you please stop spreading this lefty bulss***. 57% up from what to what, over how long ? have you ever stopped to think as the National Audit Office has done, that the rise in recent years of reported hate crime, is that the Police are that much better prepared to deal with,record and take seriously the offence. Whilst I'm not dismissing this account, it wouldn't be beyond the LBC to "embellish" some points to suit there own agenda, which sounds remarkably similar to yours. But in your world I suppose the no go areas for white people in places like Oldham and Bradford don't exist do they ? You are a very angry man Danny, perhaps you need a hug? 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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28 Jun 16 4.22pm

Originally posted by dannyh

No they are not. Will you please stop spreading this lefty bulss***.

Whilst I'm not dismissing this account, it wouldn't be beyond the LBC to "embellish" some points to suit there own agenda, which sounds remarkably similar to yours.

But in your world I suppose the no go areas for white people in places like Oldham and Bradford don't exist do they ?

You are a very angry man Danny, perhaps you need a hug?

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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Hrolf The Ganger 28 Jun 16 4.25pm
Originally posted by nickgusset By all of the remainers or some of the remainers or a few. Generalisations swept methinks. Yes it's nitpicking but.. Spare me your tiresome swerve tactics. They are so old.
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Hrolf The Ganger

28 Jun 16 4.25pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

By all of the remainers or some of the remainers or a few. Generalisations swept methinks. Yes it's nitpicking but..

Spare me your tiresome swerve tactics. They are so old.

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Stuk Top half 28 Jun 16 4.29pm
Originally posted by johnno42000 I like to read a wide range thank you Stuk. It worries me a great deal that these attacks both verbal and physical are happening. So do I, but I can read between their lines. The last one you've picked is one of the worst sites on the internet. An american woman's blog dressed up as legitimate news site. It's f***ing awful. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 28 Jun 16 4.29pm

Originally posted by johnno42000

I like to read a wide range thank you Stuk. It worries me a great deal that these attacks both verbal and physical are happening.

So do I, but I can read between their lines.

The last one you've picked is one of the worst sites on the internet. An american woman's blog dressed up as legitimate news site. It's f***ing awful.

Optimistic as ever

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 28 Jun 16 4.29pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger So now you have to provide examples of course. Of course, although I fear it may be a futile effort, as me and you have very different interpretations of what constitutes racism or xenophobia; I haven't the time to provide links etc., but off the top of my head, some of the more ill-advised points of the leave campaign included the whole Turkey fiction, the Farage poster, the Farage interview on increasing the risk of sexual assault on UK women - I'm sure there are plenty of others. You must have seen the countless examples of racist abuse and attacks since the result? Intentionally or not, there is no doubt that this campaign has legitimatized racism in some people's minds, and the leaver's refusal to admit/accept this is very concerning.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So now you have to provide examples of course.

Of course, although I fear it may be a futile effort, as me and you have very different interpretations of what constitutes racism or xenophobia;

I haven't the time to provide links etc., but off the top of my head, some of the more ill-advised points of the leave campaign included the whole Turkey fiction, the Farage poster, the Farage interview on increasing the risk of sexual assault on UK women - I'm sure there are plenty of others.

You must have seen the countless examples of racist abuse and attacks since the result? Intentionally or not, there is no doubt that this campaign has legitimatized racism in some people's minds, and the leaver's refusal to admit/accept this is very concerning.

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 28 Jun 16 4.33pm
Originally posted by johnno42000 You are a very angry man Danny, perhaps you need a hug? Angry no mate, saddened that grown men can believe such nonsense as you do. Not angry in the slightest if you take care to read my update I am having great fun and jokes destroying all the remain camps racist chanting, and not to mention doom and gloom prophecies. Ohh and if I wanted a hug, it wouldn't be from a dirty crusty hippy mung bean eater such as your good self Edited by dannyh (28 Jun 2016 4.36pm) "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 28 Jun 16 4.33pm

Originally posted by johnno42000

You are a very angry man Danny, perhaps you need a hug?

Angry no mate, saddened that grown men can believe such nonsense as you do.

Not angry in the slightest if you take care to read my update I am having great fun and jokes destroying all the remain camps racist chanting, and not to mention doom and gloom prophecies.

Ohh and if I wanted a hug, it wouldn't be from a dirty crusty hippy mung bean eater such as your good self

Edited by dannyh (28 Jun 2016 4.36pm)

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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johnno42000 28 Jun 16 4.33pm
Originally posted by Stuk So do I, but I can read between their lines. The last one you've picked is one of the worst sites on the internet. An american woman's blog dressed up as legitimate news site. It's f***ing awful. Do you doubt the veracity of the reports of racism? 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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28 Jun 16 4.33pm

Originally posted by Stuk

So do I, but I can read between their lines.

The last one you've picked is one of the worst sites on the internet. An american woman's blog dressed up as legitimate news site. It's f***ing awful.

Do you doubt the veracity of the reports of racism?

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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becky over the moon 28 Jun 16 4.34pm
Here's another of them suffering........ [Link] ... but I find it strange that you cannot see one person that he had to flash his passport at as they approached him, walking away behind him......odd isn't it? I wonder where they all went? A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 28 Jun 16 4.34pm

Here's another of them suffering........

[Link]

... but I find it strange that you cannot see one person that he had to flash his passport at as they approached him, walking away behind him......odd isn't it? I wonder where they all went?

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Jun 16 4.34pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Spare me your tiresome swerve tactics. They are so old. Not denying that some remainers have used the racist line towards brexiters, never have said that. But it's important to highlight that you are alluding that they all have. Which is a tad hypocritical. There are t***s on both sides.
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Shizzlehurst 28 Jun 16 4.34pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Spare me your tiresome swerve tactics. They are so old.

Not denying that some remainers have used the racist line towards brexiters, never have said that. But it's important to highlight that you are alluding that they all have. Which is a tad hypocritical.
There are t***s on both sides.

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