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Hoof Hearted 20 Mar 16 9.03am
Originally posted by nickgusset Who made you lord of the forum? I nearly put it into the dwp cunds thread, but thought it warranted a thread of it's own. It's "Laird o' Tha Farum" and is a hereditary appointment enshrined in Website legal formalities adopted by Hol. I'll let ye off.... this time, laddie but dinna dae it agin!
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Hoof Hearted 20 Mar 16 9.03am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Who made you lord of the forum?

I nearly put it into the dwp cunds thread, but thought it warranted a thread of it's own.

It's "Laird o' Tha Farum" and is a hereditary appointment enshrined in Website legal formalities adopted by Hol.

I'll let ye off.... this time, laddie but dinna dae it agin!

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Mar 16 9.07am
Originally posted by matt_himself I have missed you Balls, with your knee jerk prejudices and all. Tell me, what do you think about Corbyn and crew ditching their anti-EU principles and supporting the 'in' camp in the referendum, purely for political reasons? How about asking on the Corbyn thread? This one's about IDS.
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Shizzlehurst 20 Mar 16 9.07am

Originally posted by matt_himself

I have missed you Balls, with your knee jerk prejudices and all.

Tell me, what do you think about Corbyn and crew ditching their anti-EU principles and supporting the 'in' camp in the referendum, purely for political reasons?

How about asking on the Corbyn thread? This one's about IDS.

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Percy of Peckham Eton Mess 20 Mar 16 9.08am
Originally posted by Cucking Funt You can be sure his resignation is for his own political purposes rather than out of concern for the misery he and his department have caused over the last few years. To be sure! He's just throwing his hat into Camp Boris which probably has a longer shelf life in politics. Denial is not just a river in Egypt!
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

You can be sure his resignation is for his own political purposes rather than out of concern for the misery he and his department have caused over the last few years.

To be sure! He's just throwing his hat into Camp Boris which probably has a longer shelf life in politics.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt!

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Hoof Hearted 20 Mar 16 9.10am
Back to topic....... I think this is getting very interesting. Cameron is fighting dirty over the EU anti Brexit campaign and getting all sorts of people involved to besmirch the reputations of the Out campaign's leading lights. Ros Altman was on the news this morning sticking the knife into IDS. One thing's for sure, In or Out result in June's referendum - the Conservative Party is splitting and there will be a leadership contest before the year is out.
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Hoof Hearted 20 Mar 16 9.10am

Back to topic.......

I think this is getting very interesting.

Cameron is fighting dirty over the EU anti Brexit campaign and getting all sorts of people involved to besmirch the reputations of the Out campaign's leading lights.

Ros Altman was on the news this morning sticking the knife into IDS.

One thing's for sure, In or Out result in June's referendum - the Conservative Party is splitting and there will be a leadership contest before the year is out.

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Hoof Hearted 20 Mar 16 9.11am
Originally posted by nickgusset How about asking on the Corbyn thread? This one's about IDS. Who made you Lord of The Forum?
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Hoof Hearted 20 Mar 16 9.11am

Originally posted by nickgusset

How about asking on the Corbyn thread? This one's about IDS.

Who made you Lord of The Forum?

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crystal balls The Garden of Earthly Delights 20 Mar 16 9.14am
Originally posted by matt_himself I have missed you Balls, with your knee jerk prejudices and all. Tell me, what do you think about Corbyn and crew ditching their anti-EU principles and supporting the 'in' camp in the referendum, purely for political reasons? More to the point, tell us what you think about IDS and his motives, without recourse to your own prejudices, up-himself! I used to be immortal
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The Garden of Earthly Delights 20 Mar 16 9.14am

Originally posted by matt_himself

I have missed you Balls, with your knee jerk prejudices and all.

Tell me, what do you think about Corbyn and crew ditching their anti-EU principles and supporting the 'in' camp in the referendum, purely for political reasons?

More to the point, tell us what you think about IDS and his motives, without recourse to your own prejudices, up-himself!

I used to be immortal

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matt_himself Matataland 20 Mar 16 10.14am
Originally posted by crystal balls More to the point, tell us what you think about IDS and his motives, without recourse to your own prejudices, up-himself! I believe there are two most likely reasons for IDS' resignation: 1. The EU referendum is a once in a lifetime opportunity for anti EU Conservatives to get their way on Europe. Cameron is disliked and largely despised by most people who identify themselves as conservative. IDS may well have looked to start a coup, with the view of installing a more Brexit friendly leader, i.e., Boris, before the referendum; 2. Say what you want about IDS but I believe that whilst he is ideologically to the right of the Tories he, unlike Osbourne, views that the benefits system should be used to get people into work rather than the source of cash Osbourne uses to facilitate cuts. IDS therefore resigned as he viewed Osbourbes cuts as ideologically against his views on how the benefits should operate. However, I would say that there is a bit of 1. And 2. In his decision. Now, you come across as the sort of privileged middle class psude, who likes to be viewed as 'progressive' (meaning you pay lip service to 'progressive' concepts, tut at those who disagree with your views and label them a 'phobe' of some sort) and would gladly sell out all the tradition and advantage this country offers its subjects in pursuit of being trendy. Therefore, if you would be so good as to answer my question, I would be much obliged. Edited by matt_himself (20 Mar 2016 10.14am) "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 20 Mar 16 10.14am

Originally posted by crystal balls

More to the point, tell us what you think about IDS and his motives, without recourse to your own prejudices, up-himself!

I believe there are two most likely reasons for IDS' resignation:

1. The EU referendum is a once in a lifetime opportunity for anti EU Conservatives to get their way on Europe. Cameron is disliked and largely despised by most people who identify themselves as conservative. IDS may well have looked to start a coup, with the view of installing a more Brexit friendly leader, i.e., Boris, before the referendum;
2. Say what you want about IDS but I believe that whilst he is ideologically to the right of the Tories he, unlike Osbourne, views that the benefits system should be used to get people into work rather than the source of cash Osbourne uses to facilitate cuts. IDS therefore resigned as he viewed Osbourbes cuts as ideologically against his views on how the benefits should operate.

However, I would say that there is a bit of 1. And 2. In his decision.

Now, you come across as the sort of privileged middle class psude, who likes to be viewed as 'progressive' (meaning you pay lip service to 'progressive' concepts, tut at those who disagree with your views and label them a 'phobe' of some sort) and would gladly sell out all the tradition and advantage this country offers its subjects in pursuit of being trendy. Therefore, if you would be so good as to answer my question, I would be much obliged.

Edited by matt_himself (20 Mar 2016 10.14am)

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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matt_himself Matataland 20 Mar 16 10.14am
Originally posted by nickgusset How about asking on the Corbyn thread? This one's about IDS. Will remind you of this when you in future turn EVERY thread into one about immigration. Edited by matt_himself (20 Mar 2016 10.15am) "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 20 Mar 16 10.14am

Originally posted by nickgusset

How about asking on the Corbyn thread? This one's about IDS.

Will remind you of this when you in future turn EVERY thread into one about immigration.

Edited by matt_himself (20 Mar 2016 10.15am)

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Hoof Hearted 20 Mar 16 10.20am
Originally posted by matt_himself I believe there are two most likely reasons for IDS' resignation: 1. The EU referendum is a once in a lifetime opportunity for anti EU Conservatives to get their way on Europe. Cameron is disliked and largely despised by most people who identify themselves as conservative. IDS may well have looked to start a coup, with the view of installing a more Brexit friendly leader, i.e., Boris, before the referendum; 2. Say what you want about IDS but I believe that whilst he is ideologically to the right of the Tories he, unlike Osbourne, views that the benefits system should be used to get people into work rather than the source of cash Osbourne uses to facilitate cuts. IDS therefore resigned as he viewed Osborne's cuts as ideologically against his views on how the benefits should operate. However, I would say that there is a bit of 1. And 2. In his decision. I agree with this assessment of IDS thinking pretty much. As I said earlier, all these people lining up to discredit him are under Cameron's orders to do so IMHO.
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Hoof Hearted 20 Mar 16 10.20am

Originally posted by matt_himself

I believe there are two most likely reasons for IDS' resignation:

1. The EU referendum is a once in a lifetime opportunity for anti EU Conservatives to get their way on Europe. Cameron is disliked and largely despised by most people who identify themselves as conservative. IDS may well have looked to start a coup, with the view of installing a more Brexit friendly leader, i.e., Boris, before the referendum;
2. Say what you want about IDS but I believe that whilst he is ideologically to the right of the Tories he, unlike Osbourne, views that the benefits system should be used to get people into work rather than the source of cash Osbourne uses to facilitate cuts. IDS therefore resigned as he viewed Osborne's cuts as ideologically against his views on how the benefits should operate.

However, I would say that there is a bit of 1. And 2. In his decision.

I agree with this assessment of IDS thinking pretty much.

As I said earlier, all these people lining up to discredit him are under Cameron's orders to do so IMHO.

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Sportyteacher London 20 Mar 16 2.33pm
Originally posted by matt_himself IDS hasn't 'fallen in his sword'. He resigned over a matter of principles relating to the cuts in disability benefits (he didn't take responsibility for those cuts) or to further the Brexit cause, whichever you wish to chose. 'Falling on their sword' is when an individual takes responsibility for a group mistake. Please remember that next time you are teaching in order that children can be taught correctly. Edited by matt_himself (20 Mar 2016 8.15am) Humble pie just about to eaten by Matt as: a) No reference was made by myself to 'fallen in his sword' b) Falling on their sword also means to 'offer your resignation'. Link:http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/133350.html
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London 20 Mar 16 2.33pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

IDS hasn't 'fallen in his sword'. He resigned over a matter of principles relating to the cuts in disability benefits (he didn't take responsibility for those cuts) or to further the Brexit cause, whichever you wish to chose.

'Falling on their sword' is when an individual takes responsibility for a group mistake.

Please remember that next time you are teaching in order that children can be taught correctly.

Edited by matt_himself (20 Mar 2016 8.15am)

Humble pie just about to eaten by Matt as:

a) No reference was made by myself to 'fallen in his sword'
b) Falling on their sword also means to 'offer your resignation'. Link:http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/133350.html

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Hoof Hearted 20 Mar 16 3.55pm
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Humble pie just about to eaten by Matt as: a) No reference was made by myself to 'fallen in his sword' b) Falling on their sword also means to 'offer your resignation'. Link:http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/133350.html Stop trying to score petty points on sideshow issues and points of order... just stick to facts and your genuine held beliefs/opinions. Humble Pie isn't on the Menu Mr Teacher.... too much sugar!
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Hoof Hearted 20 Mar 16 3.55pm

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Humble pie just about to eaten by Matt as:

a) No reference was made by myself to 'fallen in his sword'
b) Falling on their sword also means to 'offer your resignation'. Link:http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/133350.html

Stop trying to score petty points on sideshow issues and points of order... just stick to facts and your genuine held beliefs/opinions.

Humble Pie isn't on the Menu Mr Teacher.... too much sugar!

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Sportyteacher London 20 Mar 16 7.00pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted Stop trying to score petty points on sideshow issues and points of order... just stick to facts and your genuine held beliefs/opinions. Humble Pie isn't on the Menu Mr Teacher.... too much sugar! At least I'm scoring more points than Palace!!! In all seriousness, I had a good laugh at your comment, Hoof Hearted! Finally, if anybody doz want too hav a goo at mi literaci scills, then brung it on.... (that'll be the sugar starting to kick in, Hoof!)
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London 20 Mar 16 7.00pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Stop trying to score petty points on sideshow issues and points of order... just stick to facts and your genuine held beliefs/opinions.

Humble Pie isn't on the Menu Mr Teacher.... too much sugar!

At least I'm scoring more points than Palace!!!
In all seriousness, I had a good laugh at your comment, Hoof Hearted!
Finally, if anybody doz want too hav a goo at mi literaci scills, then brung it on.... (that'll be the sugar starting to kick in, Hoof!)

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