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jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Mar 16 2.25pm | |
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Originally posted by bubble wrap
25 years ago was working in a shop and the manager who was a right b****** spoke down to me for the very last time, i punched him in the face and walked out. Went to the job center that afternoon and arranged a job interview the next day working in print got the job which paid a hell of a lot more than i was on. Manager did me a favor and i did regret hitting him but he was a bully and got away with it until then. I ended up in an Disciplinary meeting for punching an manager at a staff party. Thankfully the witnesses all back me up, reporting that he'd been sexually harassing a grad and I'd stepped in to stop it. He had to leave shortly afterwards.
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stuckinbristol In the woodwork. 21 Mar 16 2.32pm | |
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Sick days are costing UK employers about £29 billion a year as British workers take up to four times as many days off than rival economies, according to research from accountancy firm PwC. It is estimated that 56% of these are false claims. That is why I think this country is going down the s**t hole.
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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 21 Mar 16 3.02pm | |
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I worked at Tony's Fishbar on Wickham Road for one night a didn't go back it was such a s*** job. I was taking over from my brother who did it for about 2 years - God knows how.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Mar 16 5.27pm | |
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Originally posted by stuckinbristol
Sick days are costing UK employers about £29 billion a year as British workers take up to four times as many days off than rival economies, according to research from accountancy firm PwC. It is estimated that 56% of these are false claims. That is why I think this country is going down the s**t hole. The ONS reports around 131m days lost to sickness in the UK, for 2013, which was down again having effectively dropped by 40m from a decade; Sickness is actually higher in the Public sector, than the private sector. This works out as 4.4 sick days per employee in the UK as an average. 27.4 m of the lost days were for minor complaints, such as coughs and colds with six per cent being undeclared. Presumably this would be majority of the 56% cases 'PwC' refer to. Note - even if all of these claims were false, that would be around 20% of sick claims. Most companies I've managed staff at don't consider under 7 days a year to be worth following up. So an average of 4.4 isn't actually costing employers anything, its actually saving them 3 days per employee on average, against their own policy. Also the figure of sick leave has dropped 40m over the last decade. Also the biggest growth area, is stress related, which might also go hand in hand with the hours worked in the UK being higher, job security being lower and the number of unpaid hours high. I'm also going to suggest that their comparisons are to second and third world economies, rather than similar nations such as France, Germany etc. I think the reality is often clouded by the tendency to distort information towards an required outcome. I don't necessarily disagree that the country might be going down the s**thole, but I definitely don't think its because workers are 'bucking the system'. Edited by jamiemartin721 (21 Mar 2016 5.29pm)
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Mapletree Croydon 21 Mar 16 5.53pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
The ONS reports around 131m days lost to sickness in the UK, for 2013, which was down again having effectively dropped by 40m from a decade; Sickness is actually higher in the Public sector, than the private sector. This works out as 4.4 sick days per employee in the UK as an average. 27.4 m of the lost days were for minor complaints, such as coughs and colds with six per cent being undeclared. Presumably this would be majority of the 56% cases 'PwC' refer to. Note - even if all of these claims were false, that would be around 20% of sick claims. Most companies I've managed staff at don't consider under 7 days a year to be worth following up. So an average of 4.4 isn't actually costing employers anything, its actually saving them 3 days per employee on average, against their own policy. Also the figure of sick leave has dropped 40m over the last decade. Also the biggest growth area, is stress related, which might also go hand in hand with the hours worked in the UK being higher, job security being lower and the number of unpaid hours high. I'm also going to suggest that their comparisons are to second and third world economies, rather than similar nations such as France, Germany etc. I think the reality is often clouded by the tendency to distort information towards an required outcome. I don't necessarily disagree that the country might be going down the s**thole, but I definitely don't think its because workers are 'bucking the system'. Edited by jamiemartin721 (21 Mar 2016 5.29pm) Do you also support fiddling other insurance policies Jamie, or is employer's sick pay in some way unique? I love the way you calculate savings, the same way as some people's wives say they saved money by buying a shedload of stuff at the sales. Overall the UK isn't too bad for shirkers but some companies and government bodies have big problems. Like the NHS. But that's OK because people have a right to sick pay eh?
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iheartcpfc SE25 21 Mar 16 6.19pm | |
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Originally posted by stuckinbristol
And this is one reason why this country is going the s**t hole so fast. quiet now Gideon, those evil poor people aren't the problem
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Irisheagle87 Co.Derry 21 Mar 16 7.08pm | |
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I am self employed and will not be getting a penny from the state. I suffered from gout a year or to ago and got a two week sickline from my doctor. Went to the benefits office with it and the amount of forms I had to fill out was so bad I just ended up going two weeks without pay. Have another job lined up after Easter so i will just enjoy my holiday. Unpaid holiday!
THE 17th OF MAY. MY 17th BIRTHDAY. MICHEAL HUGHES SCORES THE WINNING PENALTY, WHAT WAS HIS NUMBER? 17!!!!! |
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