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Mapletree Flag Croydon 06 Jan 16 11.13am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Quote dannyh at 06 Jan 2016 10.53am

Quote Mapletree at 06 Jan 2016 10.23am

Cologne is estimated to have 11,000 Afro Germans, most recently from Nigeria and Ghana. Nigeria has a roughly even split of Muslims and Christians, Ghana is overwhelmingly Christian.

Danny, explain to me again the religious connection with these sexual assaults please. Or could it just be that you have a load of itinerant under-employed economic migrants with too much time on their hands and very few women amongst them?

As far as I know, sexual harassment is no more acceptable in Syria than it is in Germany, so I can see no support for the notion that Germany's policy on refugees has brought this upon it.

Edited by Mapletree (06 Jan 2016 10.24am)


Is that your excuse ? the poor buggers were poor, bored and had none of thier own women to grope or assualt so they got a bit rapey with the locals ?

FFS you and DanH should meet up and have a free trade latte

Edited by dannyh (06 Jan 2016 10.55am)


EXCUSE? How dare you Danny. No f*cking excuses for this and I never implied there was. What I said is the logic of blaming it on the refugee policy is lazy and partisan.

And your insinuation they must automatically be Muslim and their dodgy attitudes to women are linked to their religion is in my opinion extreme prejudice.

I am a Brit so I drink tea if you are offering.

Edited by Mapletree (06 Jan 2016 11.22am)

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 06 Jan 16 11.19am

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Quote jamiemartin721 at 06 Jan 2016 9.57am

Quote DanH at 06 Jan 2016 8.26am

Quote Jamesrichards8 at 05 Jan 2016 8.39pm

It's hilarious that anyone can be pro-refugee after hearing things like this. Priority should be keeping your own country safe.


It's hilarious that anyone thinks that all refugees are rampant sex pests and should be tarred with the same brush.

The police, in the article seem to think that those involved were in fact not newly arrived refugees and some seem to be people they've known for a long time.

One rape and 80 odd sexual assaults on New Years Eve across the country might sound terrible, and it is as well as being very concerning that it might have been somewhat organised, but how does that compare to rapes and sexual assaults on New Years Eve in general? (I personally don't know, but I suspect New Years eve and Christmas eve see a spike in such offences).


Only where you live

Or am celebrating New Years. Sometimes I like to give the locals a break.


 


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dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 06 Jan 16 11.31am Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Quote Mapletree at 06 Jan 2016 11.13am

Quote dannyh at 06 Jan 2016 10.53am

Quote Mapletree at 06 Jan 2016 10.23am

Cologne is estimated to have 11,000 Afro Germans, most recently from Nigeria and Ghana. Nigeria has a roughly even split of Muslims and Christians, Ghana is overwhelmingly Christian.

Danny, explain to me again the religious connection with these sexual assaults please. Or could it just be that you have a load of itinerant under-employed economic migrants with too much time on their hands and very few women amongst them?

As far as I know, sexual harassment is no more acceptable in Syria than it is in Germany, so I can see no support for the notion that Germany's policy on refugees has brought this upon it.

Edited by Mapletree (06 Jan 2016 10.24am)


Is that your excuse ? the poor buggers were poor, bored and had none of thier own women to grope or assualt so they got a bit rapey with the locals ?

FFS you and DanH should meet up and have a free trade latte

Edited by dannyh (06 Jan 2016 10.55am)


EXCUSE? How dare you Danny. No f*cking excuses for this and I never implied there was. What I said is the logic of blaming it on the refugee policy is lazy and partisan.

And your insinuation they must automatically be Muslim and their dodgy attitudes to women is linked to their religion is in my opinion extreme prejudice.

I am a Brit so I drink tea if you are offering.


Re-read the highlighted paragraph and tell me you weren't offering that as a reason for their behaviour, vis a vis an excuse for said behaviour.

It is not extreme prejudice and be careful what you are accusing me of here please. What it is, is an educated guess that what with Islam being the dominant religion in North Africa and the Horn of Africa, (plus It has also become the predominant religion on the Swahili Coast as well as the West African seaboard and parts of the interior.) it is not such a calamatous leep of "faith" as you or others would suggest. As for the arab contingent, you are not stupid and know very well what the dominant religion there is.

My statement that you clearly have issue with is no more extreme in its predjudice than it would be to say a load of white hooligans from London went on the rampage in France were more than likley all Christian ( or atheists).

So next time you want to get all indigant I would suggest you stop those knee's of yours from jerking, keep your racist accusations to yourself, and look into the way women are treated in the less developed Islamic countries, you might learn something you won't find in the guardian.

Edited by dannyh (06 Jan 2016 11.33am)

 


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Hoof Hearted 06 Jan 16 11.46am

Just as I expected........ a serious moral outrage by a group of 1000+ North African Men raping and groping women in public and any one that thinks it might be to do with unfettered immigration not working is castigated by the lefty PC Brigade!

I'm sicked and tired of hearing the phrase "But it's not all Muslim people...."

They treat women in their own countries like 2nd class citizens.... why do you think they will behave like we do over here?

We've had the Muslim taxi gangs over here thinking they can groom and abuse young english girls and the police too scared to investigate it for fear of being dubbed racist.

FFS.... why do you lefty types keep defending these people?

 

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Quote dannyh at 06 Jan 2016 11.31am

My statement that you clearly have issue with is no more extreme in its predjudice than it would be to say a load of white hooligans from London went on the rampage in France were more than likley all Christian ( or atheists).

If we did have to flee Britain for some reason, other countries might say ‘remember what marauding English football hooligans have done across Europe. F*ck ‘em close the border!’


 

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Bang on the money Hoofy and Dannyh

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 06 Jan 16 11.52am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Quote dannyh at 06 Jan 2016 11.31am

Quote Mapletree at 06 Jan 2016 11.13am

Quote dannyh at 06 Jan 2016 10.53am

Quote Mapletree at 06 Jan 2016 10.23am

Cologne is estimated to have 11,000 Afro Germans, most recently from Nigeria and Ghana. Nigeria has a roughly even split of Muslims and Christians, Ghana is overwhelmingly Christian.

Danny, explain to me again the religious connection with these sexual assaults please. Or could it just be that you have a load of itinerant under-employed economic migrants with too much time on their hands and very few women amongst them?

As far as I know, sexual harassment is no more acceptable in Syria than it is in Germany, so I can see no support for the notion that Germany's policy on refugees has brought this upon it.

Edited by Mapletree (06 Jan 2016 10.24am)


Is that your excuse ? the poor buggers were poor, bored and had none of thier own women to grope or assualt so they got a bit rapey with the locals ?

FFS you and DanH should meet up and have a free trade latte

Edited by dannyh (06 Jan 2016 10.55am)


EXCUSE? How dare you Danny. No f*cking excuses for this and I never implied there was. What I said is the logic of blaming it on the refugee policy is lazy and partisan.

And your insinuation they must automatically be Muslim and their dodgy attitudes to women is linked to their religion is in my opinion extreme prejudice.

I am a Brit so I drink tea if you are offering.


Re-read the highlighted paragraph and tell me you weren't offering that as a reason for their behaviour, vis a vis an excuse for said behaviour.

It is not extreme prejudice and be careful what you are accusing me of here please. What it is, is an educated guess that what with Islam being the dominant religion in North Africa and the Horn of Africa, (plus It has also become the predominant religion on the Swahili Coast as well as the West African seaboard and parts of the interior.) it is not such a calamatous leep of "faith" as you or others would suggest. As for the arab contingent, you are not stupid and know very well what the dominant religion there is.

My statement that you clearly have issue with is no more extreme in its predjudice than it would be to say a load of white hooligans from London went on the rampage in France were more than likley all Christian ( or atheists).

So next time you want to get all indigant I would suggest you stop those knee's of yours from jerking, keep your racist accusations to yourself, and look into the way women are treated in the less developed Islamic countries, you might learn something you won't find in the guardian.

Edited by dannyh (06 Jan 2016 11.33am)

I didn't offer it as a reason for their behaviour, nor as an excuse.

I don't read the Guardian

I didn't accuse you of being racist as Islam isn't a race. I do accuse you of lacking in rigour and of stereotyping.

And don't you dare accuse me of being an apologist for rape or sexual assault.

 

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Quote Hoof Hearted at 06 Jan 2016 11.46am

Just as I expected........ a serious moral outrage by a group of 1000+ North African Men raping and groping women in public and any one that thinks it might be to do with unfettered immigration not working is castigated by the lefty PC Brigade!

I'm sicked and tired of hearing the phrase "But it's not all Muslim people...."

They treat women in their own countries like 2nd class citizens.... why do you think they will behave like we do over here?

We've had the Muslim taxi gangs over here thinking they can groom and abuse young english girls and the police too scared to investigate it for fear of being dubbed racist.

FFS.... why do you lefty types keep defending these people?

To be fair they're defending the innocent Muslims. But that's still the default unhelpful left-wing response rather than looking at the crime itself and the perpetrators origin. They would happily question a load of white Germans over the crimes as there's no connection.

 

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Hoof Hearted 06 Jan 16 11.59am

Quote Beastie at 06 Jan 2016 11.51am

Quote dannyh at 06 Jan 2016 11.31am

My statement that you clearly have issue with is no more extreme in its predjudice than it would be to say a load of white hooligans from London went on the rampage in France were more than likley all Christian ( or atheists).

If we did have to flee Britain for some reason, other countries might say ‘remember what marauding English football hooligans have done across Europe. F*ck ‘em close the border!’



No the sensible nations would realise that the overwhelming majority of people in the UK find the behaviour of football hooligans disgusting and our government and police come down heavily on those caught causing trouble here and abroad. Look at what happened in Paris recently with the racist Chelsea fans being caught and dealt with.

Muslim countries treat women very badly unfortunately and the men are allowed to get away with murder - literally if they can prove their wife has been unfaithful.... the poor cow will be sentenced to be stoned to death.

That is Sharia Law my friend.... and if we allow Muslims to take over the UK it will be the law here too.

 

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Quote johnfirewall at 06 Jan 2016 11.57am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 06 Jan 2016 11.46am

Just as I expected........ a serious moral outrage by a group of 1000+ North African Men raping and groping women in public and any one that thinks it might be to do with unfettered immigration not working is castigated by the lefty PC Brigade!

I'm sicked and tired of hearing the phrase "But it's not all Muslim people...."

They treat women in their own countries like 2nd class citizens.... why do you think they will behave like we do over here?

We've had the Muslim taxi gangs over here thinking they can groom and abuse young english girls and the police too scared to investigate it for fear of being dubbed racist.

FFS.... why do you lefty types keep defending these people?

To be fair they're defending the innocent Muslims. But that's still the default unhelpful left-wing response rather than looking at the crime itself and the perpetrators origin. They would happily question a load of white Germans over the crimes as there's no connection.


Not me. I am saying I can see no proof - or even particular grounds to believe - that religion had anything at all to do with this situation. It appears some individuals are very quick to make unsupported insinuations that this is all because of a particular religion. Why would they do this without any information I wonder. Perhaps due to bias.

If tomorrow the Press gives us an eye witness statement that 1,000 people went around with their c*cks hanging out saying this is to punish the wicked infidel woman I will of course acknowledge the prescience of those posters.

 

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Quote Hoof Hearted at 06 Jan 2016 11.46am

Just as I expected........ a serious moral outrage by a group of 1000+ North African Men raping and groping women in public and any one that thinks it might be to do with unfettered immigration not working is castigated by the lefty PC Brigade!

I'm sicked and tired of hearing the phrase "But it's not all Muslim people...."

They treat women in their own countries like 2nd class citizens.... why do you think they will behave like we do over here?

We've had the Muslim taxi gangs over here thinking they can groom and abuse young english girls and the police too scared to investigate it for fear of being dubbed racist.

FFS.... why do you lefty types keep defending these people?


I only defend the innocent against nasty bigotry Hoof.

Some Jewish bankers took financial advantage of Germany's demise after WW1. Other bankers did too. The whole Jewish race including. indirectly, babies born twenty years later got blamed by the nasties. Insanity, right?

Some extreme Sunnis want to disappear the Shias. All of them. Genocide. If that starts to happen then the west help the Shias, doesn't it? Or do we leave them to it because they are Muslim yet none belong to IS or Al Qaeda and didn't blow up tube trains in London?


Bigotry, racism, xenophobia - call it what it will. It exists but as soon as it goes beyond a bit of dodgy verbal it need's to be stamped out and hard.


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Quote Kermit8 at 06 Jan 2016 9.18am

Quote dannyh at 06 Jan 2016 8.33am

Quote DanH at 06 Jan 2016 8.26am

Quote Jamesrichards8 at 05 Jan 2016 8.39pm

It's hilarious that anyone can be pro-refugee after hearing things like this. Priority should be keeping your own country safe.


It's hilarious that anyone thinks that all refugees are rampant sex pests and should be tarred with the same brush.

So a crowd of one thousand who got together for the sole purpose of sexual intimidation (apart from being your wet dream), who follow a religion that belittles women is not evidence enough that the countries these people come from DO NOT treat women as we do.

Honest to f***ing god what more proof do you pant wetting lefties need to see that some countries cultures just DO NOT merge seemlesly together but clash like f***.


Domestic and sexual violence is, according to reports, off the scale in the UK. Which means there are tens of thousands of 'us' who treat women in a much more appalling way than the vast majority of Muslims do.


Here he is! Never far away!

Sheikh Bin Kermit.

I genuinely wonder if you have lost the plot - it's like you refuse to believe Asian people can commit crimes. Serious crimes. And the only way you can deflect blame is to try and claim that non-Asian/Muslim people are far worse.

I would love to hear this opinion from you when you've spent a few years in Somalia or Mauritania and see if you preached the same head-in-the-sand bullsh*t you spout now.

Also, where you get the 'vast majority' from I do not know. Like you know thousands of Muslims and can speak on their behalf.

Let's strip it down to the facts - there was a large number of sexual assaults by Asian men against German women in Germany. They were targeted. It was organised.

Your ignorance of any matters relating 'ethnic minorities' is embarrassing.

 


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