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Hoof Hearted 02 Dec 15 11.28am
Quote serial thriller at 02 Dec 2015 11.08am Very good piece by George Monbiot on Cameron's hypocrisy with regards 'security': [Link] While I understand the exasperation of people on this thread with regards to other nations doing nothing, you have to look at the fact that we are the only G7 nation who has increased subsidies for fossil fuel emitters. What incentive do emerging economies like China and India have to change when we're actually going backwards on our environmental pledges? Paris seems to have happened at the worst possible time, with countries like Russia, Turkey, the UK, France, even the US, more intent on political posturing and the situation in the Middle East than what is, let's not forget, a catastrophe which has and will involve far greater losses than any terrorist atrocities. China are probably going to rein back their emissions.... China are actually seeing the fruits of their fossil fuel appetite with poor air quality in their bigger cities... and have completed many hydro electric projects now. India aren't interested because they are more interested in driving their economy upwards - if anything, they are going to burn much more coal. Luckily, the US seem to be onboard and aim to reduce their carbon footprint. India will need a lot of persuading and financial help if they are going to abandon their targets for growth over the next 5 years.
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Hoof Hearted 02 Dec 15 11.28am

Quote serial thriller at 02 Dec 2015 11.08am

Very good piece by George Monbiot on Cameron's hypocrisy with regards 'security': [Link]

While I understand the exasperation of people on this thread with regards to other nations doing nothing, you have to look at the fact that we are the only G7 nation who has increased subsidies for fossil fuel emitters. What incentive do emerging economies like China and India have to change when we're actually going backwards on our environmental pledges?

Paris seems to have happened at the worst possible time, with countries like Russia, Turkey, the UK, France, even the US, more intent on political posturing and the situation in the Middle East than what is, let's not forget, a catastrophe which has and will involve far greater losses than any terrorist atrocities.

China are probably going to rein back their emissions.... China are actually seeing the fruits of their fossil fuel appetite with poor air quality in their bigger cities... and have completed many hydro electric projects now.

India aren't interested because they are more interested in driving their economy upwards - if anything, they are going to burn much more coal.

Luckily, the US seem to be onboard and aim to reduce their carbon footprint.

India will need a lot of persuading and financial help if they are going to abandon their targets for growth over the next 5 years.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 13 Jan 16 5.10pm
Quote Forest Hillbilly at 25 Nov 2015 11.20am But my own MP, Amber Rudd (Tory, and Minister for the environment), is an advocate of fracking, and as such, very much for the exploitation of fossil fuels. Rich countries have no moral high-ground to dictate to poorer countries how they improve their quality of life. Does anyone really think putting a few cans/bottles in a recycle bin is going to make a squit of difference to the world when China, Japan, Africa, India ,,etc are pumping gazzilions of tonnes of pollution into the atmosphere and surface waters. ? [Link]
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Shizzlehurst 13 Jan 16 5.10pm

Quote Forest Hillbilly at 25 Nov 2015 11.20am

But my own MP, Amber Rudd (Tory, and Minister for the environment), is an advocate of fracking, and as such, very much for the exploitation of fossil fuels.

Rich countries have no moral high-ground to dictate to poorer countries how they improve their quality of life.

Does anyone really think putting a few cans/bottles in a recycle bin is going to make a squit of difference to the world when China, Japan, Africa, India ,,etc are pumping gazzilions of tonnes of pollution into the atmosphere and surface waters. ?

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