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Palace_love_affair SE London 30 Oct 15 3.25pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 30 Oct 2015 3.23pm Quote Jimenez at 30 Oct 2015 2.30pm Quote ASCPFC at 30 Oct 2015 2.10pm I don't mean to sound alarmist in any way but I don't really see this as a reality. Why would anyone want to have a lot of kids these days? Certainly if there are a lot of births I have to suspect that they are not from 'traditional English' couples. I really don't know how else to put it. [Link] Like this shyster you mean? He's probably told all his family/mates from "back home" what a cushty place this is as well as taking us for a ride himself! There is much wrong with this bloke. Not least his ability to shag that munter at least 11 times "We're the Holmesdale, We're the Holmesdale, We're the Holmesdale over here!!"
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I don't mean to sound alarmist in any way but I don't really see this as a reality. Why would anyone want to have a lot of kids these days? Certainly if there are a lot of births I have to suspect that they are not from 'traditional English' couples. I really don't know how else to put it.

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Like this shyster you mean?

He's probably told all his family/mates from "back home" what a cushty place this is as well as taking us for a ride himself!

There is much wrong with this bloke. Not least his ability to shag that munter at least 11 times

"We're the Holmesdale, We're the Holmesdale, We're the Holmesdale over here!!"

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farms Thailand / England 30 Oct 15 3.31pm
The types of people like Nick and Legal will be happy , the younger people just do not understand they are the future and what is this country going to be like for there children and there grand children . But they are the destroyers as well . Have pride in your country and vote UKIP .
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The types of people like Nick and Legal will be happy , the younger people just do not understand they are the future and what is this country going to be like for there children and there grand children . But they are the destroyers as well . Have pride in your country and vote UKIP .

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Oct 15 3.34pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 30 Oct 2015 3.23pm Quote Jimenez at 30 Oct 2015 2.30pm Quote ASCPFC at 30 Oct 2015 2.10pm I don't mean to sound alarmist in any way but I don't really see this as a reality. Why would anyone want to have a lot of kids these days? Certainly if there are a lot of births I have to suspect that they are not from 'traditional English' couples. I really don't know how else to put it. [Link] Like this shyster you mean? He's probably told all his family/mates from "back home" what a cushty place this is as well as taking us for a ride himself! I am left wing, in fact very much so, but I have seen plenty of research that shows that it is not white, middle class people having children. A high proportion of ethnically English people comes from single-mothers and from amongst the poorer demographic. However, the UK population is very much only on the rise due to ethnic minorities having several children. Middle class couples usually work too much to have many children - the average being below two children per couple so not reproducing, and certainly not adding to, the population. This is simply a statement of factual research - not a call to cull any particular minority group or to steralise anyone. I beleive this argument deserves to be put into some kind of context. Also with reference to one of the posts above, I am left wing but have a strong alliegance to Britain and I don't like the suggestion that left-wing people must hate Britain. In fact, it was people like Thatcher that must have hated Britain, yes she liked the flag and the royal family, but she didn't do anything to help the majority of people. I think you will find it is generally the people that make up the state rather than the symbolism involved. Red and Blue Army!
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Like this shyster you mean?

He's probably told all his family/mates from "back home" what a cushty place this is as well as taking us for a ride himself!

I am left wing, in fact very much so, but I have seen plenty of research that shows that it is not white, middle class people having children. A high proportion of ethnically English people comes from single-mothers and from amongst the poorer demographic. However, the UK population is very much only on the rise due to ethnic minorities having several children.
Middle class couples usually work too much to have many children - the average being below two children per couple so not reproducing, and certainly not adding to, the population. This is simply a statement of factual research - not a call to cull any particular minority group or to steralise anyone. I beleive this argument deserves to be put into some kind of context.

Also with reference to one of the posts above, I am left wing but have a strong alliegance to Britain and I don't like the suggestion that left-wing people must hate Britain. In fact, it was people like Thatcher that must have hated Britain, yes she liked the flag and the royal family, but she didn't do anything to help the majority of people. I think you will find it is generally the people that make up the state rather than the symbolism involved.

Red and Blue Army!

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Oct 15 3.37pm
Quote Palace_love_affair at 30 Oct 2015 3.25pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 30 Oct 2015 3.23pm Quote Jimenez at 30 Oct 2015 2.30pm Quote ASCPFC at 30 Oct 2015 2.10pm I don't mean to sound alarmist in any way but I don't really see this as a reality. Why would anyone want to have a lot of kids these days? Certainly if there are a lot of births I have to suspect that they are not from 'traditional English' couples. I really don't know how else to put it. [Link] Like this shyster you mean? He's probably told all his family/mates from "back home" what a cushty place this is as well as taking us for a ride himself! There is much wrong with this bloke. Not least his ability to shag that munter at least 11 times I guarantee those kids could, frankly, be anyone's. This is in Rochdale FFS, Rochdale - have you ever been 'up north'?! Red and Blue Army!
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Like this shyster you mean?

He's probably told all his family/mates from "back home" what a cushty place this is as well as taking us for a ride himself!

There is much wrong with this bloke. Not least his ability to shag that munter at least 11 times

I guarantee those kids could, frankly, be anyone's. This is in Rochdale FFS, Rochdale - have you ever been 'up north'?!

Red and Blue Army!

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Palace_love_affair SE London 30 Oct 15 3.38pm
Quote ASCPFC at 30 Oct 2015 3.37pm Quote Palace_love_affair at 30 Oct 2015 3.25pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 30 Oct 2015 3.23pm Quote Jimenez at 30 Oct 2015 2.30pm Quote ASCPFC at 30 Oct 2015 2.10pm I don't mean to sound alarmist in any way but I don't really see this as a reality. Why would anyone want to have a lot of kids these days? Certainly if there are a lot of births I have to suspect that they are not from 'traditional English' couples. I really don't know how else to put it. [Link] Like this shyster you mean? He's probably told all his family/mates from "back home" what a cushty place this is as well as taking us for a ride himself! There is much wrong with this bloke. Not least his ability to shag that munter at least 11 times I guarantee those kids could, frankly, be anyone's. This is in Rochdale FFS, Rochdale - have you ever been 'up north'?! I only ever venture north of the M25 if absolutely necessary. "We're the Holmesdale, We're the Holmesdale, We're the Holmesdale over here!!"
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[Link]

Like this shyster you mean?

He's probably told all his family/mates from "back home" what a cushty place this is as well as taking us for a ride himself!

There is much wrong with this bloke. Not least his ability to shag that munter at least 11 times

I guarantee those kids could, frankly, be anyone's. This is in Rochdale FFS, Rochdale - have you ever been 'up north'?!

I only ever venture north of the M25 if absolutely necessary.

"We're the Holmesdale, We're the Holmesdale, We're the Holmesdale over here!!"

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oldcodger 30 Oct 15 3.45pm
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Oct 15 3.48pm
Quote farms at 30 Oct 2015 3.31pm The types of people like Nick and Legal will be happy , the younger people just do not understand they are the future and what is this country going to be like for there children and there grand children . But they are the destroyers as well . Have pride in your country and vote UKIP . The types of people like Nick and Legal? Care to expand?
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Stirlingsays 30 Oct 15 4.03pm
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 30 Oct 2015 3.21pm The big problem is not with living longer. It is with birth rate. In Europe we have no population problem today and the world birthrate is dropping. Unfortunately the benefits of this will not be felt for a couple of hundred years when the world population is three or four times what it is now. The aging population will have to be adjusted to and we must get used to that change into the future. The solution to the aging problem is going back to the family model where the family generations live together more. This society has a whole raft of people within it who take as much as possible for themselves and don't contribute to their wider family in anything near an adequate amount. Old people are the responsibility of their adult children....Every situation is different of course but in a general sense there has been too much dumping onto the state rather than a family sorting its own problems out. Unless someone physically can't care for themselves then it should be a family problem.....Some do this...Others have more excuses than you can shake a stick at...Some of them are reasonable but they all seem to involve the problem being someone else's duty. Society needs to recognise this.....Workplaces need to recognise that family life also has requirements as well. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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The big problem is not with living longer. It is with birth rate. In Europe we have no population problem today and the world birthrate is dropping. Unfortunately the benefits of this will not be felt for a couple of hundred years when the world population is three or four times what it is now.

The aging population will have to be adjusted to and we must get used to that change into the future.

The solution to the aging problem is going back to the family model where the family generations live together more.

This society has a whole raft of people within it who take as much as possible for themselves and don't contribute to their wider family in anything near an adequate amount.

Old people are the responsibility of their adult children....Every situation is different of course but in a general sense there has been too much dumping onto the state rather than a family sorting its own problems out.

Unless someone physically can't care for themselves then it should be a family problem.....Some do this...Others have more excuses than you can shake a stick at...Some of them are reasonable but they all seem to involve the problem being someone else's duty.

Society needs to recognise this.....Workplaces need to recognise that family life also has requirements as well.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 30 Oct 15 4.06pm
Quote ASCPFC at 30 Oct 2015 3.34pm I am left wing, in fact very much so, but I have seen plenty of research that shows that it is not white, middle class people having children. A high proportion of ethnically English people comes from single-mothers and from amongst the poorer demographic. However, the UK population is very much only on the rise due to ethnic minorities having several children. Middle class couples usually work too much to have many children - the average being below two children per couple so not reproducing, and certainly not adding to, the population. This is simply a statement of factual research - not a call to cull any particular minority group or to steralise anyone. I beleive this argument deserves to be put into some kind of context. Also with reference to one of the posts above, I am left wing but have a strong alliegance to Britain and I don't like the suggestion that left-wing people must hate Britain. In fact, it was people like Thatcher that must have hated Britain, yes she liked the flag and the royal family, but she didn't do anything to help the majority of people. I think you will find it is generally the people that make up the state rather than the symbolism involved. I hasten to add that I'm talking about a section of the left and not all of them. Plenty of left wing voters wouldn't fit my description....I recognise that....Just being lazy. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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I hasten to add that I'm talking about a section of the left and not all of them.

Plenty of left wing voters wouldn't fit my description....I recognise that....Just being lazy.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 30 Oct 15 4.08pm
Quote Stuk at 30 Oct 2015 3.02pm I advocate non-treatment as oppose to just killing them. Kind of like an improved refinement on Shipman then.....Neglect rather than actively degrade. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Oct 2015 4.08pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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I advocate non-treatment as oppose to just killing them.

Kind of like an improved refinement on Shipman then.....Neglect rather than actively degrade.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Oct 2015 4.08pm)

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oldcodger 30 Oct 15 4.35pm
Quote Stuk at 30 Oct 2015 3.02pm Quote Stirlingsays at 30 Oct 2015 2.53pm Quote Stuk at 30 Oct 2015 2.48pm Stop making people, who should be at the end of their life, live longer. Might help the NHS budget deficit too. Stuk, you should start a new NHS think tank....You could call it the 'Shipman doctrine of medicine'. I advocate non-treatment as oppose to just killing them. We have to do the best for people within reason regardless of age, rather than non treatment because they take up all many resources or don't contribute enough. By this logic we wouldn't treat young babies and young children with significant ongoing physical and mental problems either. It's all about finding a balance and non-treatment isn't a balance, nor is it something you would advocate for yourself in that situation.
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Stop making people, who should be at the end of their life, live longer.

Might help the NHS budget deficit too.

Stuk, you should start a new NHS think tank....You could call it the 'Shipman doctrine of medicine'.

I advocate non-treatment as oppose to just killing them.

We have to do the best for people within reason regardless of age, rather than non treatment because they take up all many resources or don't contribute enough. By this logic we wouldn't treat young babies and young children with significant ongoing physical and mental problems either. It's all about finding a balance and non-treatment isn't a balance, nor is it something you would advocate for yourself in that situation.

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Stuk Top half 30 Oct 15 4.42pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 30 Oct 2015 4.08pm Quote Stuk at 30 Oct 2015 3.02pm I advocate non-treatment as oppose to just killing them. Kind of like an improved refinement on Shipman then.....Neglect rather than actively degrade. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Oct 2015 4.08pm) Nope, just don't artificially keep people alive who are at the end of their natural life. Similar to the "do not resuscitate" option that doctors do discuss with older patients. Optimistic as ever
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