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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 30 Oct 15 1.42pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Why on earth did those idiotic yanks let Jamal go? In California some guy got 20 years for stealing a pizza a while back yet this extremist was let out in half that time.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Oct 15 2.06pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

You could quite easily commit a string of murders and end up serving 14 years - put this into some context. Also the quasi-fascist comments about the left are completely off the mark and have nothing to do with most of these threads.
If you are such a true blue Tory that you need to slate the 'left' at every turn, even when it has nothing whatsoever to do with it, then I hope you are happy in your mansion and visiting the kids in Gordonstone once a year.

 


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Stuk Flag Top half 30 Oct 15 2.18pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Oct 2015 12.45pm

Quote stevegood at 30 Oct 2015 12.26pm


Similar cries and hand-wringing from the left centered around another Q Bay detainee, Jamal al Harith. He was released back into the UK and received £1 million from the tax-payers to compensate him for the dreadful wrongs done to him. Subsequently, he went of to fight for ISIS.

Its actually irrelivent whether he is guilty or not, its about the fact that he's never been tried. The right to a trial, in the UK, dates back to the very first ever real documentation of law in the UK.

Right or Left wing, I'd generally assume that the right of the state to imprison people without trial is illegal.

Luckily the circumstance of his arrest, were solid. He was captured by bounty hunters, paid by the Northern Alliance (who were basically glorified smack runners with an army) fighting for Al-Qaeda / The Taliban (Dependent on who you ask). The Northern Alliance paid for foreign fighters, as it could pass them onto the US.


How is it anything to do with the UK or UK law? He's Saudi, was in Afghanistan and was taken by Americans to Cuba. Nothing to do with us until today.

I hope his coffee lived up to expectation.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 30 Oct 15 2.28pm

Quote Stuk at 30 Oct 2015 2.18pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Oct 2015 12.45pm

Quote stevegood at 30 Oct 2015 12.26pm


Similar cries and hand-wringing from the left centered around another Q Bay detainee, Jamal al Harith. He was released back into the UK and received £1 million from the tax-payers to compensate him for the dreadful wrongs done to him. Subsequently, he went of to fight for ISIS.

Its actually irrelivent whether he is guilty or not, its about the fact that he's never been tried. The right to a trial, in the UK, dates back to the very first ever real documentation of law in the UK.

Right or Left wing, I'd generally assume that the right of the state to imprison people without trial is illegal.

Luckily the circumstance of his arrest, were solid. He was captured by bounty hunters, paid by the Northern Alliance (who were basically glorified smack runners with an army) fighting for Al-Qaeda / The Taliban (Dependent on who you ask). The Northern Alliance paid for foreign fighters, as it could pass them onto the US.


How is it anything to do with the UK or UK law? He's Saudi, was in Afghanistan and was taken by Americans to Cuba. Nothing to do with us until today.

I hope his coffee lived up to expectation.

He's a British national, married to a British Woman. It has everything to do with our law (as he's a citizen of the UK) and US law, as they're the country that took him to Guantanemo bay and Camp-XRAY which is a US base (and thus US nationality).


 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 30 Oct 15 2.32pm

Quote ASCPFC at 30 Oct 2015 2.06pm

You could quite easily commit a string of murders and end up serving 14 years - put this into some context. Also the quasi-fascist comments about the left are completely off the mark and have nothing to do with most of these threads.
If you are such a true blue Tory that you need to slate the 'left' at every turn, even when it has nothing whatsoever to do with it, then I hope you are happy in your mansion and visiting the kids in Gordonstone once a year.

You'd serve 14 years, but you'd be on a life tariff, which means you need Home Office approval to leave the UK usually (in all likelihood if you commited a string of murders in the UK, you'd get a minimum of 20 to whole life tariff).

Arguably even that is better than letting someone go that you 'were certain was a terrorist for 14 years' and then decided wasn't worth putting on trial.


 


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stevegood Flag 30 Oct 15 2.39pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Oct 2015 2.28pm

Quote Stuk at 30 Oct 2015 2.18pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Oct 2015 12.45pm

Quote stevegood at 30 Oct 2015 12.26pm


Similar cries and hand-wringing from the left centered around another Q Bay detainee, Jamal al Harith. He was released back into the UK and received £1 million from the tax-payers to compensate him for the dreadful wrongs done to him. Subsequently, he went of to fight for ISIS.

Its actually irrelivent whether he is guilty or not, its about the fact that he's never been tried. The right to a trial, in the UK, dates back to the very first ever real documentation of law in the UK.

Right or Left wing, I'd generally assume that the right of the state to imprison people without trial is illegal.

Luckily the circumstance of his arrest, were solid. He was captured by bounty hunters, paid by the Northern Alliance (who were basically glorified smack runners with an army) fighting for Al-Qaeda / The Taliban (Dependent on who you ask). The Northern Alliance paid for foreign fighters, as it could pass them onto the US.


How is it anything to do with the UK or UK law? He's Saudi, was in Afghanistan and was taken by Americans to Cuba. Nothing to do with us until today.

I hope his coffee lived up to expectation.

He's a British national, married to a British Woman. It has everything to do with our law (as he's a citizen of the UK) and US law, as they're the country that took him to Guantanemo bay and Camp-XRAY which is a US base (and thus US nationality).

He is not a British citizen, he is a Saudi Arabian citizen - I wonder how they would treat someone returning to the country strongly suspected of meaning it harm?

 

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Stuk Flag Top half 30 Oct 15 2.41pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Oct 2015 2.28pm

Quote Stuk at 30 Oct 2015 2.18pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Oct 2015 12.45pm

Quote stevegood at 30 Oct 2015 12.26pm


Similar cries and hand-wringing from the left centered around another Q Bay detainee, Jamal al Harith. He was released back into the UK and received £1 million from the tax-payers to compensate him for the dreadful wrongs done to him. Subsequently, he went of to fight for ISIS.

Its actually irrelivent whether he is guilty or not, its about the fact that he's never been tried. The right to a trial, in the UK, dates back to the very first ever real documentation of law in the UK.

Right or Left wing, I'd generally assume that the right of the state to imprison people without trial is illegal.

Luckily the circumstance of his arrest, were solid. He was captured by bounty hunters, paid by the Northern Alliance (who were basically glorified smack runners with an army) fighting for Al-Qaeda / The Taliban (Dependent on who you ask). The Northern Alliance paid for foreign fighters, as it could pass them onto the US.


How is it anything to do with the UK or UK law? He's Saudi, was in Afghanistan and was taken by Americans to Cuba. Nothing to do with us until today.

I hope his coffee lived up to expectation.

He's a British national, married to a British Woman. It has everything to do with our law (as he's a citizen of the UK) and US law, as they're the country that took him to Guantanemo bay and Camp-XRAY which is a US base (and thus US nationality).



He's not, he just has the right to live here.

As I said, nothing to do with us until today.

 


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Stuk Flag Top half 30 Oct 15 2.44pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Oct 2015 2.28pm

Quote Stuk at 30 Oct 2015 2.18pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Oct 2015 12.45pm

Quote stevegood at 30 Oct 2015 12.26pm


Similar cries and hand-wringing from the left centered around another Q Bay detainee, Jamal al Harith. He was released back into the UK and received £1 million from the tax-payers to compensate him for the dreadful wrongs done to him. Subsequently, he went of to fight for ISIS.

Its actually irrelivent whether he is guilty or not, its about the fact that he's never been tried. The right to a trial, in the UK, dates back to the very first ever real documentation of law in the UK.

Right or Left wing, I'd generally assume that the right of the state to imprison people without trial is illegal.

Luckily the circumstance of his arrest, were solid. He was captured by bounty hunters, paid by the Northern Alliance (who were basically glorified smack runners with an army) fighting for Al-Qaeda / The Taliban (Dependent on who you ask). The Northern Alliance paid for foreign fighters, as it could pass them onto the US.


How is it anything to do with the UK or UK law? He's Saudi, was in Afghanistan and was taken by Americans to Cuba. Nothing to do with us until today.

I hope his coffee lived up to expectation.

He's a British national, married to a British Woman. It has everything to do with our law (as he's a citizen of the UK) and US law, as they're the country that took him to Guantanemo bay and Camp-XRAY which is a US base (and thus US nationality).



And your last word should be territory not nationality.

 


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stevegood Flag 31 Oct 15 12.19pm

I see Shaker is 'undergoing medical tests' - looking for weapons of mass destruction I expect. Love the picture of ernest chap holding 'welcome home shaker' poster, he could have added 'please don't blow us up if you are in fact a terrorist'. Mind you, he might be just trying to curry favour in the hope of a contribution to his organistation from the millions that Shaker will no doubt be awarded by tax-payers.

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oldcodger Flag 31 Oct 15 1.00pm Send a Private Message to oldcodger Add oldcodger as a friend

Quote stevegood at 30 Oct 2015 2.39pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Oct 2015 2.28pm

Quote Stuk at 30 Oct 2015 2.18pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Oct 2015 12.45pm

Quote stevegood at 30 Oct 2015 12.26pm


Similar cries and hand-wringing from the left centered around another Q Bay detainee, Jamal al Harith. He was released back into the UK and received £1 million from the tax-payers to compensate him for the dreadful wrongs done to him. Subsequently, he went of to fight for ISIS.

Its actually irrelivent whether he is guilty or not, its about the fact that he's never been tried. The right to a trial, in the UK, dates back to the very first ever real documentation of law in the UK.

Right or Left wing, I'd generally assume that the right of the state to imprison people without trial is illegal.

Luckily the circumstance of his arrest, were solid. He was captured by bounty hunters, paid by the Northern Alliance (who were basically glorified smack runners with an army) fighting for Al-Qaeda / The Taliban (Dependent on who you ask). The Northern Alliance paid for foreign fighters, as it could pass them onto the US.


How is it anything to do with the UK or UK law? He's Saudi, was in Afghanistan and was taken by Americans to Cuba. Nothing to do with us until today.

I hope his coffee lived up to expectation.

He's a British national, married to a British Woman. It has everything to do with our law (as he's a citizen of the UK) and US law, as they're the country that took him to Guantanemo bay and Camp-XRAY which is a US base (and thus US nationality).

He is not a British citizen, he is a Saudi Arabian citizen - I wonder how they would treat someone returning to the country strongly suspected of meaning it harm?

Only he isn't strongly suspected of trying to harm the country.

I know with the way you come across you feel that you're doing the right thing, but you clearly have little idea of the push at the time to fill GBay and how embarrassing it now is for them to admit that there are no grounds at all for the presence of many there. Hence innocent people remained for a long, long time. There was effectively a bounty system, all kinds of people got caught up in it.

Edited by oldcodger (31 Oct 2015 1.01pm)

 

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stevegood Flag 31 Oct 15 8.03pm

Quote oldcodger at 31 Oct 2015 1.00pm

Quote stevegood at 30 Oct 2015 2.39pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Oct 2015 2.28pm

Quote Stuk at 30 Oct 2015 2.18pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Oct 2015 12.45pm

Quote stevegood at 30 Oct 2015 12.26pm


Similar cries and hand-wringing from the left centered around another Q Bay detainee, Jamal al Harith. He was released back into the UK and received £1 million from the tax-payers to compensate him for the dreadful wrongs done to him. Subsequently, he went of to fight for ISIS.

Its actually irrelivent whether he is guilty or not, its about the fact that he's never been tried. The right to a trial, in the UK, dates back to the very first ever real documentation of law in the UK.

Right or Left wing, I'd generally assume that the right of the state to imprison people without trial is illegal.

Luckily the circumstance of his arrest, were solid. He was captured by bounty hunters, paid by the Northern Alliance (who were basically glorified smack runners with an army) fighting for Al-Qaeda / The Taliban (Dependent on who you ask). The Northern Alliance paid for foreign fighters, as it could pass them onto the US.


How is it anything to do with the UK or UK law? He's Saudi, was in Afghanistan and was taken by Americans to Cuba. Nothing to do with us until today.

I hope his coffee lived up to expectation.

He's a British national, married to a British Woman. It has everything to do with our law (as he's a citizen of the UK) and US law, as they're the country that took him to Guantanemo bay and Camp-XRAY which is a US base (and thus US nationality).

He is not a British citizen, he is a Saudi Arabian citizen - I wonder how they would treat someone returning to the country strongly suspected of meaning it harm?

Only he isn't strongly suspected of trying to harm the country.

I know with the way you come across you feel that you're doing the right thing, but you clearly have little idea of the push at the time to fill GBay and how embarrassing it now is for them to admit that there are no grounds at all for the presence of many there. Hence innocent people remained for a long, long time. There was effectively a bounty system, all kinds of people got caught up in it.

Edited by oldcodger (31 Oct 2015 1.01pm)

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 31 Oct 15 8.20pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Quote stevegood at 31 Oct 2015 8.03pm

Quote oldcodger at 31 Oct 2015 1.00pm

Quote stevegood at 30 Oct 2015 2.39pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Oct 2015 2.28pm

Quote Stuk at 30 Oct 2015 2.18pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 30 Oct 2015 12.45pm

Quote stevegood at 30 Oct 2015 12.26pm


Similar cries and hand-wringing from the left centered around another Q Bay detainee, Jamal al Harith. He was released back into the UK and received £1 million from the tax-payers to compensate him for the dreadful wrongs done to him. Subsequently, he went of to fight for ISIS.

Its actually irrelivent whether he is guilty or not, its about the fact that he's never been tried. The right to a trial, in the UK, dates back to the very first ever real documentation of law in the UK.

Right or Left wing, I'd generally assume that the right of the state to imprison people without trial is illegal.

Luckily the circumstance of his arrest, were solid. He was captured by bounty hunters, paid by the Northern Alliance (who were basically glorified smack runners with an army) fighting for Al-Qaeda / The Taliban (Dependent on who you ask). The Northern Alliance paid for foreign fighters, as it could pass them onto the US.


How is it anything to do with the UK or UK law? He's Saudi, was in Afghanistan and was taken by Americans to Cuba. Nothing to do with us until today.

I hope his coffee lived up to expectation.

He's a British national, married to a British Woman. It has everything to do with our law (as he's a citizen of the UK) and US law, as they're the country that took him to Guantanemo bay and Camp-XRAY which is a US base (and thus US nationality).

He is not a British citizen, he is a Saudi Arabian citizen - I wonder how they would treat someone returning to the country strongly suspected of meaning it harm?

Only he isn't strongly suspected of trying to harm the country.

I know with the way you come across you feel that you're doing the right thing, but you clearly have little idea of the push at the time to fill GBay and how embarrassing it now is for them to admit that there are no grounds at all for the presence of many there. Hence innocent people remained for a long, long time. There was effectively a bounty system, all kinds of people got caught up in it.

Edited by oldcodger (31 Oct 2015 1.01pm)

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I used to have one of The Guildford four enjoy an occasional drink in the bar I worked at and to paraphrase an Irish friend of mine I worked with 'I think he was innocent of the Guilford bombing, but got away with other stuff so kind of evens it self out"

 


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