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Ray in Houston Houston 27 Aug 15 4.03pm | |
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Quote Jimenez at 27 Aug 2015 12.15pm
Indeed Ray. A Barman in a decent Midtown bar working say 11am to 6pm would get about -00 a shift + can make 0-00 in Tips. A waitress can easily make /400 a shift that's about 1200 quid a week
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Stuk Top half 04 Sep 15 1.42pm | |
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Here's an article about it, which handily lists quite a few of these w***ers companies and how bad their additional charges are. Edited by Stuk (04 Sep 2015 1.44pm)
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sa_eagle Just outside Cape Town 04 Sep 15 1.47pm | |
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There's no real culture of tipping in Britain and given the level of the minimum wage I for one don't tip when I'm there. When home here in SA I always tip 10% because most waiting staff are paid a small retainer and then rely on their tips for an income.
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npn Crowborough 04 Sep 15 1.59pm | |
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Quote sa_eagle at 04 Sep 2015 1.47pm
There's no real culture of tipping in Britain and given the level of the minimum wage I for one don't tip when I'm there. When home here in SA I always tip 10% because most waiting staff are paid a small retainer and then rely on their tips for an income.
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Stuk Top half 04 Sep 15 2.08pm | |
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Quote npn at 04 Sep 2015 1.59pm
Quote sa_eagle at 04 Sep 2015 1.47pm
There's no real culture of tipping in Britain and given the level of the minimum wage I for one don't tip when I'm there. When home here in SA I always tip 10% because most waiting staff are paid a small retainer and then rely on their tips for an income.
Agreed. I just tipped my barber a fiver. Food deliveries also get tips from me.
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sa_eagle Just outside Cape Town 04 Sep 15 4.13pm | |
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Quote sa_eagle at 04 Sep 2015 1.47pm
There's no real culture of tipping in Britain and given the level of the minimum wage I for one don't tip when I'm there. When home here in SA I always tip 10% because most waiting staff are paid a small retainer and then rely on their tips for an income.
Agreed. I just tipped my barber a fiver. Food deliveries also get tips from me. That's all a recent develpoment, historically it was pretty much cabbies and maybe hairdressers being tipped, not waiting staff. I waitered and did barwork whilst at university in the early 90s and never expected a tip despite working in a silver service restaurant. Edited by sa_eagle (04 Sep 2015 4.15pm)
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Stuk Top half 04 Sep 15 4.20pm | |
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Quote sa_eagle at 04 Sep 2015 1.47pm
There's no real culture of tipping in Britain and given the level of the minimum wage I for one don't tip when I'm there. When home here in SA I always tip 10% because most waiting staff are paid a small retainer and then rely on their tips for an income.
Agreed. I just tipped my barber a fiver. Food deliveries also get tips from me. That's all a recent develpoment, historically it was pretty much cabbies and maybe hairdressers being tipped, not waiting staff. I waitered and did barwork whilst at university in the early 90s and never expected a tip despite working in a silver service restaurant.
Bars however can sod off. When you queue for an age to pay for a (generally) over-priced drink and they've only had to walk about two steps to grab/open a bottle. I don't consider that a service worthy of a tip, no matter how many little silver dishes you try and put my change on instead of just handing it to me.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Sep 15 4.31pm | |
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Quote Stuk at 04 Sep 2015 4.20pm
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Quote sa_eagle at 04 Sep 2015 1.47pm
There's no real culture of tipping in Britain and given the level of the minimum wage I for one don't tip when I'm there. When home here in SA I always tip 10% because most waiting staff are paid a small retainer and then rely on their tips for an income.
Agreed. I just tipped my barber a fiver. Food deliveries also get tips from me. That's all a recent develpoment, historically it was pretty much cabbies and maybe hairdressers being tipped, not waiting staff. I waitered and did barwork whilst at university in the early 90s and never expected a tip despite working in a silver service restaurant.
Bars however can sod off. When you queue for an age to pay for a (generally) over-priced drink and they've only had to walk about two steps to grab/open a bottle. I don't consider that a service worthy of a tip, no matter how many little silver dishes you try and put my change on instead of just handing it to me. Good service at a bar I'm happy to 'buy one for the barman'. Doesn't happen very often, but occasionally you'll come across such good customer service from bar staff. What I do object to is 'service charges included' and the expectation of a tip without any effort. With deliveries, if they charge for delivery, then I never tip - Ironically this usually works out worse for them in my case than the tip used to be.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Sep 15 4.31pm | |
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Quote sa_eagle at 04 Sep 2015 1.47pm
There's no real culture of tipping in Britain and given the level of the minimum wage I for one don't tip when I'm there. When home here in SA I always tip 10% because most waiting staff are paid a small retainer and then rely on their tips for an income. Minimum wage in the UK is below the cost of a living wage in the UK.
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Midlands Eagle 04 Sep 15 5.06pm | |
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Quote sa_eagle at 04 Sep 2015 1.47pm
There's no real culture of tipping in Britain and given the level of the minimum wage I for one don't tip when I'm there. When home here in SA I always tip 10% because most waiting staff are paid a small retainer and then rely on their tips for an income.
Agreed. I just tipped my barber a fiver. Food deliveries also get tips from me. That's all a recent develpoment, historically it was pretty much cabbies and maybe hairdressers being tipped, not waiting staff. I waitered and did barwork whilst at university in the early 90s and never expected a tip despite working in a silver service restaurant. It depends on what you call recent as tipping in restaurants has been the norm ever since I started working in the mid sixties
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Sep 15 5.07pm | |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Sep 2015 4.31pm
Good service at a bar I'm happy to 'buy one for the barman'. In the old days when you bought a drink for the bartender he/she used to have a half and raise it as a 'Thank You' to the customer. Never see this anymore, perhaps because it might be deemed unacceptable to be seen drinking behind the bar.Think now they put the money in their pocket instead of purchasing a drink.
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 04 Sep 15 5.24pm | |
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Quote Willo at 04 Sep 2015 5.07pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Sep 2015 4.31pm
Good service at a bar I'm happy to 'buy one for the barman'. In the old days when you bought a drink for the bartender he/she used to have a half and raise it as a 'Thank You' to the customer. Never see this anymore, perhaps because it might be deemed unacceptable to be seen drinking behind the bar.Think now they put the money in their pocket instead of purchasing a drink. I think it is some of the companies that run pubs nowadays; they're just restaurants. I offered the barman a drink and was refused. Probably drinking at work?
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