Explain to me why "illegal war" is bulls***? Explain to me how it was legal

As for "tell that to the families" nonsense. It is precisely the blundering around the middle east shooting at people with no strategy as to why and what might happen afterwards that has led us to this mess. To think that the next step might be to keep doing it ...well. What was Einsteins definition of madness? Keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

If I were you I would be getting my phone out no and start apoligizing

not that simple though is it.
the illegal war bull. is dragged out ad nauseum by people of a left wing slant.
Handwringers.
we've always killed each other & I expect always will, its a case of recognising a serious threat.
This ones got teeth and it'll get worse.
A part of the UK population only wants our resources, the land, the infrastucture etc.

tell that to the families -nonsense eh.
insulting.
while you post something very clever, I'm off for a cold beer.

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

You sir are a buffoon.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

Technically speaking, those actions actually played a major role in the creating the environment of IS. Two of those countries knocked over were specifically anti-Islamist states (Iraq and Libya).

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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The West created the ''scum''.

Thanks for the info. I didn't realise that. Would the same apply to Bosnia? Also would it allow NATO to follow ISIS back into Syria if Turkey were invaded or is it purely a defensive agreement i.e. push ISIS out of Turkey and no more?

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

I do think the "war in Iraq" was dodgy.

Post 9/11 the "war on terror" was used as an excuse to invade Iraq (whose regime ,however despicable,was nothing to do with salafist jihadism) and we screwed up with no coherent post toppling Saddam strategy..

"We have also manipulated lots of things overseas for our own ends for a long time.

You reap what you sow.

But, I do not buy the line that that intervention in Iraq explains or justifies people all over the place now (in the name sometimes of ISIS) but in many cases being a "local group" that has decided to "affiliate" either genuinely or for PR,whether in Tunisia, Nigeria,pakistan or France.

In so much as "the west" has any blame of this type,I think it relates more to the crazy short termism of the US (supported by the UK) having encouraged ,armed and supported "salafist jihadis" in about early 80's when they wanted them to topple the regime in Afghanistan.That,and turning a blind eye (for profit) to countries like Saudi spreading the pernicious influence of this strain of salafism globally by spreading the underpinning ideology through massive funding of mosques and religious education worldwide.

This strain of salafist jihadism is an evil political ideology.We are not blameless.But,an argument of whose interests does it suit that today's incident in Tunisia (and the one in France? and the ones in France earlier this year)took place and will take place again,or an argument its somehow all to be blamed on Iraq and/or us/The US,is miles off and too simplistic IMO.

Answers? Complex and multi faceted and I wouldn't claim to be able to trot them out.

I would think a starting point is to try to properly understand one's "enemy" to work out how to counter it,and how to counter it without driving a whole load more people into its arms who wouldn't otherwise go there.Short-termism has got "us" into enough trouble already.The desire for a knee jerk response may be understandable but is not always the best long term bet.