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gambler Flag Kent 10 May 15 11.02am Send a Private Message to gambler Add gambler as a friend

Quote derben at 10 May 2015 10.49am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 10 May 2015 10.42am

Quote Pussay Patrol at 10 May 2015 10.10am

Maybe their real angst is they don't have a party that represents them?

The fact that people in the Labour party are cut from the same cloth and just have modern liberal ideals.

If there is such great disillusionment Why doesn't a new socialist party evolve that fights for jobs, minimum wage, social housing, Education, student rights and fees, benefits. everyday Things that resonate with poor, ordinary people? Instead they get the Labour party. That's what they should fight for rather than the boring 'tories out' cliche

Because of the cost of campaigning in rigged elections, where 7.7% of the vote returns 8 seats, 12% returns 1 seat, and a 6% difference means a difference of other 100 seats.

Anyone who thinks the British system is really democratic, fair, impartial and representative of the people is deluded.


'Rigged' - in what way?

Can't you read? He just explained.

 

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ambrose7 Flag Croydon 10 May 15 11.03am Send a Private Message to ambrose7 Add ambrose7 as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 10 May 2015 10.42am

Quote Pussay Patrol at 10 May 2015 10.10am

Maybe their real angst is they don't have a party that represents them?

The fact that people in the Labour party are cut from the same cloth and just have modern liberal ideals.

If there is such great disillusionment Why doesn't a new socialist party evolve that fights for jobs, minimum wage, social housing, Education, student rights and fees, benefits. everyday Things that resonate with poor, ordinary people? Instead they get the Labour party. That's what they should fight for rather than the boring 'tories out' cliche

Because of the cost of campaigning in rigged elections, where 7.7% of the vote returns 8 seats, 12% returns 1 seat, and a 6% difference means a difference of other 100 seats.

Anyone who thinks the British system is really democratic, fair, impartial and representative of the people is deluded.


Hopefully the Government will take these views into account and ask the people if they would like to change the system, through a referendum perhaps? That seems to be the most democratic thing they could possibly do...

I genuinely have no idea what people are protesting about.

 


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derben Flag 10 May 15 11.10am

Quote gambler at 10 May 2015 11.02am

Quote derben at 10 May 2015 10.49am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 10 May 2015 10.42am

Quote Pussay Patrol at 10 May 2015 10.10am

Maybe their real angst is they don't have a party that represents them?

The fact that people in the Labour party are cut from the same cloth and just have modern liberal ideals.

If there is such great disillusionment Why doesn't a new socialist party evolve that fights for jobs, minimum wage, social housing, Education, student rights and fees, benefits. everyday Things that resonate with poor, ordinary people? Instead they get the Labour party. That's what they should fight for rather than the boring 'tories out' cliche

Because of the cost of campaigning in rigged elections, where 7.7% of the vote returns 8 seats, 12% returns 1 seat, and a 6% difference means a difference of other 100 seats.

Anyone who thinks the British system is really democratic, fair, impartial and representative of the people is deluded.


'Rigged' - in what way?

Can't you read? He just explained.

If the elections were not, as you say, 'rigged', and were held on a basis that you would consider not rigged (whatever that may be), who do you think would be the majority party?

 

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bright&wright Flag 10 May 15 11.39am Send a Private Message to bright&wright Add bright&wright as a friend

If Labour had won you'd never have see any protest like this.

Because the Conservative voters would be too busy. Working.

Same old middle-class 'fight the system', I've finished uni and don't want to work in the real world, live in Camden cos I'm hip w*nkers who attack the police because they know they aren't allowed to do anything to left-wing groups.

 


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Helmet46 Flag Croydon 10 May 15 12.44pm Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Quote ambrose7 at 10 May 2015 11.03am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 10 May 2015 10.42am

Quote Pussay Patrol at 10 May 2015 10.10am

Maybe their real angst is they don't have a party that represents them?

The fact that people in the Labour party are cut from the same cloth and just have modern liberal ideals.

If there is such great disillusionment Why doesn't a new socialist party evolve that fights for jobs, minimum wage, social housing, Education, student rights and fees, benefits. everyday Things that resonate with poor, ordinary people? Instead they get the Labour party. That's what they should fight for rather than the boring 'tories out' cliche

Because of the cost of campaigning in rigged elections, where 7.7% of the vote returns 8 seats, 12% returns 1 seat, and a 6% difference means a difference of other 100 seats.

Anyone who thinks the British system is really democratic, fair, impartial and representative of the people is deluded.


Hopefully the Government will take these views into account and ask the people if they would like to change the system, through a referendum perhaps? That seems to be the most democratic thing they could possibly do...

I genuinely have no idea what people are protesting about.


Didn't we have a referendum on PR and vote against it?

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 10 May 15 12.48pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Quote bright&wright at 10 May 2015 11.39am

If Labour had won you'd never have see any protest like this.

Because the Conservative voters would be too busy. Working.

Same old middle-class 'fight the system', I've finished uni and don't want to work in the real world, live in Camden cos I'm hip w*nkers who attack the police because they know they aren't allowed to do anything to left-wing groups.


..........except Gusset lives in Tory run Chislehurst!!

 


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johnfirewall Flag 10 May 15 12.49pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

I think they're just frustrated by their own ignorance. I doubt the 16 year old arrested or the other dozen had half a clue or a vote between them. They clearly weren't protesting for a lower voting age.

The times I've seen a protest which was actually about something (Lewisham Hospital) you had the same Socialist idiots with the exact same banners about bankers and the tories as were out this morning.

If there are cuts affecting people at a local level these people should all unite and turn out in support of that rather than just showing up for the big events with all the fun of a bit of aggro.

Oh and let's not forget the same protest in Wales where Charlotte Church featured. Has she been affected and does she stick her hand in her pocket?

 

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ambrose7 Flag Croydon 10 May 15 12.53pm Send a Private Message to ambrose7 Add ambrose7 as a friend

Quote Helmet46 at 10 May 2015 12.44pm

Quote ambrose7 at 10 May 2015 11.03am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 10 May 2015 10.42am

Quote Pussay Patrol at 10 May 2015 10.10am

Maybe their real angst is they don't have a party that represents them?

The fact that people in the Labour party are cut from the same cloth and just have modern liberal ideals.

If there is such great disillusionment Why doesn't a new socialist party evolve that fights for jobs, minimum wage, social housing, Education, student rights and fees, benefits. everyday Things that resonate with poor, ordinary people? Instead they get the Labour party. That's what they should fight for rather than the boring 'tories out' cliche

Because of the cost of campaigning in rigged elections, where 7.7% of the vote returns 8 seats, 12% returns 1 seat, and a 6% difference means a difference of other 100 seats.

Anyone who thinks the British system is really democratic, fair, impartial and representative of the people is deluded.


Hopefully the Government will take these views into account and ask the people if they would like to change the system, through a referendum perhaps? That seems to be the most democratic thing they could possibly do...

I genuinely have no idea what people are protesting about.


Didn't we have a referendum on PR and vote against it?

It was on AV, a kind of middle-ground position between FPTP and PR, but yes that's what I was getting at.

Not even 1 in 3 supported a diluted PR so we kept our system and a party won a majority. These protests have 0 substantive thought to them.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 May 15 1.23pm

Quote Jimenez at 10 May 2015 12.48pm

Quote bright&wright at 10 May 2015 11.39am

If Labour had won you'd never have see any protest like this.

Because the Conservative voters would be too busy. Working.

Same old middle-class 'fight the system', I've finished uni and don't want to work in the real world, live in Camden cos I'm hip w*nkers who attack the police because they know they aren't allowed to do anything to left-wing groups.


..........except Gusset lives in Tory run Chislehurst!!

Know your enemy...

A facile response Mr J.

 

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Johnny Eagles Flag berlin 10 May 15 3.13pm Send a Private Message to Johnny Eagles Add Johnny Eagles as a friend

If a few sad old dinosaurs going on a protest where half of the attendees are troublemakers is the best the Left can come up with then the Tories are laughing until 2025.

 


...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 10 May 15 3.28pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

I think it ludicrous that these demonstrations happen before the Queens Speech. At the moment what these demostrators are saying is that the participants disagree with the election result. It therefore has no legitimacy as the agenda of the new government has not been formalised.

However, instead of having demonstrations, why don't these protesters form a single political group, with a manifesto that matches their views, and then campaign to be elected as a political party? Or is that a too conventional and straight forward way of bringing their message to the public?

Edited by matt_himself (10 May 2015 3.28pm)

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 10 May 15 3.53pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

People have a democratic right to protest against whatever they want.

 


If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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