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The Sash Flag Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 27 Apr 15 2.16pm Send a Private Message to The Sash Add The Sash as a friend

Quote Lyons550 at 27 Apr 2015 1.58pm

Would - Just sayin

So would I - she's lovely....I mean she is a person in her own right not some object of white, male sexual oppression...shame she is obviously so f***ing stupid


Edited by The Sash (27 Apr 2015 2.17pm)

 

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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 27 Apr 15 2.32pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Quote The Sash at 27 Apr 2015 2.16pm

Quote Lyons550 at 27 Apr 2015 1.58pm

Would - Just sayin

So would I - she's lovely....I mean she is a person in her own right not some object of white, male sexual oppression...shame she is obviously so f***ing stupid


Edited by The Sash (27 Apr 2015 2.17pm)


We could make sweet 'Binary' with my "1" and her "0"

Edited by Lyons550 (27 Apr 2015 2.33pm)

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 27 Apr 15 2.41pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

This is key to a lot of what I say.

Who decides what is offensive?

Most of the stuff decided on here comes from people who live in the back of beyond, those in professions with motives or those who think they know what is best but have hidden themselves away from the real world.

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 27 Apr 15 2.45pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

as a dog i am finding this whole thread very bi-pedal centric. It has little or no regard for those who perambulate on four legs and none at all for the hoppity types who lost a leg in an accident at the Vet's.

you are all a bunch of biped-centric leg-ists.

 

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soulboy Flag Lewisham 27 Apr 15 2.46pm Send a Private Message to soulboy Add soulboy as a friend

Quote The Sash at 27 Apr 2015 2.14pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 1.53pm

Quote PalazioVecchio at 27 Apr 2015 12.42pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 12.33pm

here we go again, cue lots of "I'm not racist but..."

I'm not a racist but i am organising a party at Goldsmiths but no straight white men are allowed to participate, even if they have been invited by friends from a more welcome demographic group"


Think this could be a permanent thread on its own.....? But seriously why not expend some energy on addressing the glaring lack of diversity (there are often more black faces on the pitch) at SP in a Borough with a healthy percentage BME. Or do we feel that engaging in such dialogue is;
a) painful
b) not required, we are happy as we are
c) it's all down to Mark Bright
d) Having Wilf, Jase and Bolasie is enough
d) they don't like football so it's a waste of time
e) they can get a bit intimidating if there's more than a couple
f) bloody hell that might jeopardise my season ticket
g) let's do it for the police and army and leave it there
h) all of the above
i) none of the above


j) Perhaps ask said 'BME's' (what a horrible piece of jargon to pigeon hole people by as to why they don't come rather than summise and suppose ?

Yep, an academic approach, perhaps a local master's student could adopt a suitable hypothesis and share the results of their research on this site?


Edited by soulboy (27 Apr 2015 2.48pm)

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 27 Apr 15 2.59pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

i am finding the term 'pigeon hole' very offensive. It should be called 'retrospective taxonomical classification' or RTC for short.

 

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soulboy Flag Lewisham 27 Apr 15 3.03pm Send a Private Message to soulboy Add soulboy as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 12.54pm

Quote PalazioVecchio at 27 Apr 2015 12.30pm

don't you love 'positive discrimination' ie. a white bloke doesn't get a job he is well qualified for cos he is a white bloke.

and you end up sacking Alan Pardew and hiring Harriet Harman to run your football team.

Doesn't work quite like that, its if there is an choice between two equally qualified candidates, then the default position of Positive Action is that the other person gets it.

Is the wrong answer and is actually 'positive discrimination' and contrary to existing law in this country. Positive Action is lawful but can only be applied BEFORE the selection process takes place e.g offering extra tuition to recognised underepresented (as defined by the existing legislation) groups or actually encouraging said groups to apply for a position. However, at the point of selection, under current legislation, everyone is considered as equal and the most suitably qualified person SHOULD get the post regardless of ethnic persuasion, gender, disability, sexual orientation etc.

 

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The Sash Flag Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 27 Apr 15 3.03pm Send a Private Message to The Sash Add The Sash as a friend

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 2.46pm

Quote The Sash at 27 Apr 2015 2.14pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 1.53pm

Quote PalazioVecchio at 27 Apr 2015 12.42pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 12.33pm

here we go again, cue lots of "I'm not racist but..."

I'm not a racist but i am organising a party at Goldsmiths but no straight white men are allowed to participate, even if they have been invited by friends from a more welcome demographic group"


Think this could be a permanent thread on its own.....? But seriously why not expend some energy on addressing the glaring lack of diversity (there are often more black faces on the pitch) at SP in a Borough with a healthy percentage BME. Or do we feel that engaging in such dialogue is;
a) painful
b) not required, we are happy as we are
c) it's all down to Mark Bright
d) Having Wilf, Jase and Bolasie is enough
d) they don't like football so it's a waste of time
e) they can get a bit intimidating if there's more than a couple
f) bloody hell that might jeopardise my season ticket
g) let's do it for the police and army and leave it there
h) all of the above
i) none of the above


j) Perhaps ask said 'BME's' (what a horrible piece of jargon to pigeon hole people by as to why they don't come rather than summise and suppose ?

Yep, an academic approach, perhaps a local master's student could adopt a suitable hypothesis and share the results of their research on this site?


Edited by soulboy (27 Apr 2015 2.48pm)

It isn't really but unless you actually plonk yourself down in South Norwood High Street and accost every passer by who fits into easy stereotype and bully them into answering why they don't go to Palace you have to file it under ' it is what it is' I guess.

I suspect just like the white folks there would be a myriad of reasons..

 

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The Sash Flag Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 27 Apr 15 3.04pm Send a Private Message to The Sash Add The Sash as a friend

Quote matt_himself at 27 Apr 2015 2.41pm

This is key to a lot of what I say.

Who decides what is offensive?

Most of the stuff decided on here comes from people who live in the back of beyond, those in professions with motives or those who think they know what is best but have hidden themselves away from the real world.


I think it should be me.....

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 27 Apr 15 3.04pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

'cos skin pigmentation and whether you have a c0ck or not are the most important factors in any informed & reasoned debate.

 

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soulboy Flag Lewisham 27 Apr 15 3.10pm Send a Private Message to soulboy Add soulboy as a friend

Quote The Sash at 27 Apr 2015 3.03pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 2.46pm

Quote The Sash at 27 Apr 2015 2.14pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 1.53pm

Quote PalazioVecchio at 27 Apr 2015 12.42pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 12.33pm

here we go again, cue lots of "I'm not racist but..."

I'm not a racist but i am organising a party at Goldsmiths but no straight white men are allowed to participate, even if they have been invited by friends from a more welcome demographic group"


Think this could be a permanent thread on its own.....? But seriously why not expend some energy on addressing the glaring lack of diversity (there are often more black faces on the pitch) at SP in a Borough with a healthy percentage BME. Or do we feel that engaging in such dialogue is;
a) painful
b) not required, we are happy as we are
c) it's all down to Mark Bright
d) Having Wilf, Jase and Bolasie is enough
d) they don't like football so it's a waste of time
e) they can get a bit intimidating if there's more than a couple
f) bloody hell that might jeopardise my season ticket
g) let's do it for the police and army and leave it there
h) all of the above
i) none of the above


j) Perhaps ask said 'BME's' (what a horrible piece of jargon to pigeon hole people by as to why they don't come rather than summise and suppose ?

Yep, an academic approach, perhaps a local master's student could adopt a suitable hypothesis and share the results of their research on this site?


Edited by soulboy (27 Apr 2015 2.48pm)

It isn't really but unless you actually plonk yourself down in South Norwood High Street and accost every passer by who fits into easy stereotype and bully them into answering why they don't go to Palace you have to file it under ' it is what it is' I guess.

I suspect just like the white folks there would be a myriad of reasons..


A. South Norwood High street alone may produce a biased sample, would suggest a wider spread of localities B. Of course in any academic research it would be sensible to obtain the views of white people, for comparative reasons....

 

"Deviance is a freedom enjoyed in a city of lightly engaged strangers"
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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 27 Apr 15 3.13pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 3.10pm

Quote The Sash at 27 Apr 2015 3.03pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 2.46pm

Quote The Sash at 27 Apr 2015 2.14pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 1.53pm

Quote PalazioVecchio at 27 Apr 2015 12.42pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 12.33pm

here we go again, cue lots of "I'm not racist but..."

I'm not a racist but i am organising a party at Goldsmiths but no straight white men are allowed to participate, even if they have been invited by friends from a more welcome demographic group"


Think this could be a permanent thread on its own.....? But seriously why not expend some energy on addressing the glaring lack of diversity (there are often more black faces on the pitch) at SP in a Borough with a healthy percentage BME. Or do we feel that engaging in such dialogue is;
a) painful
b) not required, we are happy as we are
c) it's all down to Mark Bright
d) Having Wilf, Jase and Bolasie is enough
d) they don't like football so it's a waste of time
e) they can get a bit intimidating if there's more than a couple
f) bloody hell that might jeopardise my season ticket
g) let's do it for the police and army and leave it there
h) all of the above
i) none of the above


j) Perhaps ask said 'BME's' (what a horrible piece of jargon to pigeon hole people by as to why they don't come rather than summise and suppose ?

Yep, an academic approach, perhaps a local master's student could adopt a suitable hypothesis and share the results of their research on this site?


Edited by soulboy (27 Apr 2015 2.48pm)

It isn't really but unless you actually plonk yourself down in South Norwood High Street and accost every passer by who fits into easy stereotype and bully them into answering why they don't go to Palace you have to file it under ' it is what it is' I guess.

I suspect just like the white folks there would be a myriad of reasons..


A. South Norwood High street alone may produce a biased sample, would suggest a wider spread of localities B. Of course in any academic research it would be sensible to obtain the views of white people....


if you omit the views of blind people you are being very short sighted.....you will find us to be very tolerant of differences in skin colour

Edited by PalazioVecchio (27 Apr 2015 3.17pm)

 

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