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Eaglecoops CR3 22 Feb 21 3.50pm | |
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Originally posted by PZ Eagle
WTF has that got to do with Managing/Coaching a football team?. Absolutely nothing. But then again it wasn’t directed at you. It was a parody of Steelys replies to everything in the politics section. So go do one you bore.
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Putitout Oxford 22 Feb 21 3.53pm | |
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Any new manager coming in now, is going to inherit a mass of situations , that will not make success easy for him beyond remaining a bottom half club.
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 22 Feb 21 3.55pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I am actually insulted by being compared to Charlton fans and will now deal with a couple of Roy's points. I think you make some valid points, but I don't agree with the bits that I have highlighted. For a club with our resources, staying up is the first objective. Anything like a Cup Final appearance, a bonus. Do the targets go up incrementally every year ? If so, how do you implement that when you are frequently changing managers ?? At the risk of repeating myself, it's the Director of Football and the Chairman that have responsibility and oversight of contracts, wages and transfer fees. Stop blaming Hodgson for things he that are outside of his remit. Your comment about our young players simply doesn't stack up. Was it you that advocated playing a 16 year old in the first team without so much as seeing him play ? It's been debated before, but your anti Hodgson sentiment is getting the better of you. Results, performances, tactics, team selections are all down to Hodgson. At the moment results are variable, performances underwhelming, tactics - frustrating. Team selection - at the moment, not a lot of choice, but most fans question managers selections.
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Croydon-Trucker 22 Feb 21 4.01pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I am actually insulted by being compared to Charlton fans and will now deal with a couple of Roy's points. Very good post . A lot of us feel the same . Very frustrating .
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Feb 21 4.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Putitout
Any new manager coming in now, is going to inherit a mass of situations , that will not make success easy for him beyond remaining a bottom half club. Totally true. A new manager will not be a quick fix. However, back to my long rant. Jimmy Mac for example. Subbed 88 mins all the time. Wasn't worth it for him or the player coming on. He looked gone on about 60 mins every match. But we did it for two seasons. If we'd relied less on certain players, given them a break sometimes, brought one more player through because of that, the blame would be far less on the manager.
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 22 Feb 21 4.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
surely if we're sucked into a relegation scrap then we should entertain the idea of bringing someone in this season? We should be taking points from the next two games (minimum 3) if we don't, the two games after that are harder in Man U and Spurs. Then there are ten games left. Would like to think that Mr Parish has some hard deadlines on when to start pushing certain buttons if our points and performances don't improve. Still, if we somehow bag 4 points from the next two games that should chill things out a bit and we'll likely hobble over the finish line.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Feb 21 4.44pm | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
I think you make some valid points, but I don't agree with the bits that I have highlighted. For a club with our resources, staying up is the first objective. Anything like a Cup Final appearance, a bonus. Do the targets go up incrementally every year ? If so, how do you implement that when you are frequently changing managers ?? At the risk of repeating myself, it's the Director of Football and the Chairman that have responsibility and oversight of contracts, wages and transfer fees. Stop blaming Hodgson for things he that are outside of his remit. Your comment about our young players simply doesn't stack up. Was it you that advocated playing a 16 year old in the first team without so much as seeing him play ? It's been debated before, but your anti Hodgson sentiment is getting the better of you. Results, performances, tactics, team selections are all down to Hodgson. At the moment results are variable, performances underwhelming, tactics - frustrating. Team selection - at the moment, not a lot of choice, but most fans question managers selections. Fair enough, NEILLO, I have advocated playing untried youngsters. I already gave the reason. No point in playing players that are physically shot. At least an able bodied person, and a footballer too, should be able to do what many of our first team do. Wasn't you that advocated playing only the seasoned regulars? That's happened. Let's hope we don't go down, basically fingers crossed! I understand your opinion, I have mine. You believe I'm wrong, fair point.
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PZ Eagle Penzance 22 Feb 21 5.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Absolutely nothing. But then again it wasn’t directed at you. It was a parody of Steelys replies to everything in the politics section. So go do one you bore. Says the pot again calling the kettle. You jump on enough posts of mine when they are nothing to do with you, so you an go do one yourself.
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 22 Feb 21 6.23pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Fair enough, NEILLO, I have advocated playing untried youngsters. I already gave the reason. No point in playing players that are physically shot. At least an able bodied person, and a footballer too, should be able to do what many of our first team do. Wasn't you that advocated playing only the seasoned regulars? That's happened. Let's hope we don't go down, basically fingers crossed! I understand your opinion, I have mine. You believe I'm wrong, fair point. I feel your frustration, I really do....fingers crossed for tonight ! You don't come across as anything other than being passionate about our club - we have that very much in common
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Mstrobez 22 Feb 21 6.25pm | |
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Originally posted by CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE
Its clear some will be screaming Roy IN even when we are relegated. Thats missing the main points of the Roy OUT side: Our current position is mostly due to how other teams suck more than us - just look at the win vs losses. Now also look at the nature of the wins and how many had lady luck's hand in them. Now look at the losses and decide how many of those were in fact winnable games. Additionally look at the talent in our sqyad and see if its used to maximum effect under Roy. Then review your IN vs OUT disposition Now look at the Premier League net spends since Roy took over. Now look at the other squads average ages in comparison to ours. Now compare our squad to those around us. Now look at the way we scraped for survival in pretty much every single Premier League season prior to Roys arrival. Now get a bloody grip of yourself. The Roy out saga is up there for me as the most hysterical & cult-like campaign I've ever witnessed as a Palace fan. It is infantile, cringeworthy & embarrassing. Nobody would defend Roy Hodgson if we were to go down but it ain't gonna happen. And when you consider how little financial backing he's had & actually look at our squad on paper - that is a far greater achievement than our increasingly spoilt fanbase give him credit for. Edited by Mstrobez (22 Feb 2021 6.38pm)
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Mstrobez 22 Feb 21 6.32pm | |
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The thing that frustrates me above all else about this nonsense is that the Roy period has left us in a position where we can tangibly push on. We are a semi-respectable & established Premier League club now - that really does count for something. The very reason Palace fans are expecting the push is precisely because of the work Roy has done. Had it been any of the managers who came before him, there would've almost certainly been a time where we were in danger of going down. And we would've either spunked another huge sum of money up the wall (future transfer funds) on firefighter signings to stay up or actually gone down this time. Roy has steadied the ship and then some. It would be utterly bizarre & reckless of the clubs hierarchy to get rid of him now. Edited by Mstrobez (22 Feb 2021 6.34pm)
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PZ Eagle Penzance 22 Feb 21 6.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
The thing that frustrates me above all else about this nonsense is that the Roy period has left us in a position where we can tangibly push on. We are a semi-respectable & established Premier League club now - that really does count for something. The very reason Palace fans are expecting the push is precisely because of the work Roy has done. Had it been any of the managers who came before him, there would've almost certainly been a time where we were in danger of going down. And we would've either spunked another huge sum of money up the wall (future transfer funds) on firefighter signings to stay up or actually gone down this time. Roy has steadied the ship and then some. It would be utterly bizarre & reckless of the clubs hierarchy to get rid of him now. Edited by Mstrobez (22 Feb 2021 6.34pm) Well said People forget Roy has stayd loyal unlike Pullis an Allardyce who didn't fancy not being able to operate without spending millions. Honestly some of these Roy out brigade should have been around when were really crap, seeking re-election to the league twice and being relegated to the bottom tier of the league.
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