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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 08 May 15 11.37am

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I feel Farage has been hard done by. With the 3rd most votes and only 1 seat. This is why politics are so corrupt

Edited by Daz.CPFC (08 May 2015 10.39am)


Nothing in the South Thanet campaign was about the qualities of the other candidates. It was all about keeping Farage out. All the nasty literature and smears from UAF et al. there paid off.

South Thanet have "not" Farage, but have lost someone who would have actually represented them on a local platform.

1 seat from 13% of the vote. That's why UK politics is such a joke.


UKIP got 6% to 7% around here and lots of other places too. I wouldn't like them to have 13% of the seats in Parliament going by that just because they managed to get well above 13% in a small minority of areas.

They represent a few pockets of the UK quite well but not the main swathe. They just didn't have enough broad appeal.

Edited by Kermit8 (08 May 2015 11.05am)

As usual you are talking out your ass again.
If UKIP gained 6% or 7% of votes where you live or in some other places as you mention then they must also have gained 19% - 20% of votes in other areas because the facts don’t lie - UKIP have polled somewhere around 13% of the national electret. If you take into account the lack of UKIP support in Wales, N Ireland and Scotland then the level of English votes for UKIP is probably up near or around 20%.
If I were you maybe I would spend more time wondering why your lot, the Greens polled so badly.


Or...they got 25-35% in a minority of sympathetic and target areas and the significant majority was 6-10% in others to make that 13%.

If the whole of Manchester and the NW voted for 'Betty's Hot Pot Party' would you be calling their share '13% of the national electorate' or a regional anomaly?

LOL - are you that stupid? Every constituency in the country is a 'targeted area' or do you think these parties just turn up on Election Day and hope for the best.
So Kermit - why do you think your lot the Greens polled so few?

 


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Come on Thanet South - champing at the bit here.


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I feel Farage has been hard done by. With the 3rd most votes and only 1 seat. This is why politics are so corrupt

Edited by Daz.CPFC (08 May 2015 10.39am)


Nothing in the South Thanet campaign was about the qualities of the other candidates. It was all about keeping Farage out. All the nasty literature and smears from UAF et al. there paid off.

South Thanet have "not" Farage, but have lost someone who would have actually represented them on a local platform.

1 seat from 13% of the vote. That's why UK politics is such a joke.


UKIP got 6% to 7% around here and lots of other places too. I wouldn't like them to have 13% of the seats in Parliament going by that just because they managed to get well above 13% in a small minority of areas.

They represent a few pockets of the UK quite well but not the main swathe. They just didn't have enough broad appeal.

Edited by Kermit8 (08 May 2015 11.05am)

As usual you are talking out your ass again.
If UKIP gained 6% or 7% of votes where you live or in some other places as you mention then they must also have gained 19% - 20% of votes in other areas because the facts don’t lie - UKIP have polled somewhere around 13% of the national electret. If you take into account the lack of UKIP support in Wales, N Ireland and Scotland then the level of English votes for UKIP is probably up near or around 20%.
If I were you maybe I would spend more time wondering why your lot, the Greens polled so badly.


Or...they got 25-35% in a minority of sympathetic and target areas and the significant majority was 6-10% in others to make that 13%.

If the whole of Manchester and the NW voted for 'Betty's Hot Pot Party' would you be calling their share '13% of the national electorate' or a regional anomaly?

LOL - are you that stupid? Every constituency in the country is a 'targeted area' or do you think these parties just turn up on Election Day and hope for the best.
So Kermit - why do you think your lot the Greens polled so few?


Oh, dear. You're still a bit wet behind the ears, aren't you? Teenage angst too? Oh, well.

The Greens? Hmmm..they polled badly because they campaigned badly? Just a thought.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 08 May 15 11.47am

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Come on Thanet South - champing at the bit here.


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I feel Farage has been hard done by. With the 3rd most votes and only 1 seat. This is why politics are so corrupt

Edited by Daz.CPFC (08 May 2015 10.39am)


Nothing in the South Thanet campaign was about the qualities of the other candidates. It was all about keeping Farage out. All the nasty literature and smears from UAF et al. there paid off.

South Thanet have "not" Farage, but have lost someone who would have actually represented them on a local platform.

1 seat from 13% of the vote. That's why UK politics is such a joke.


UKIP got 6% to 7% around here and lots of other places too. I wouldn't like them to have 13% of the seats in Parliament going by that just because they managed to get well above 13% in a small minority of areas.

They represent a few pockets of the UK quite well but not the main swathe. They just didn't have enough broad appeal.

Edited by Kermit8 (08 May 2015 11.05am)

As usual you are talking out your ass again.
If UKIP gained 6% or 7% of votes where you live or in some other places as you mention then they must also have gained 19% - 20% of votes in other areas because the facts don’t lie - UKIP have polled somewhere around 13% of the national electret. If you take into account the lack of UKIP support in Wales, N Ireland and Scotland then the level of English votes for UKIP is probably up near or around 20%.
If I were you maybe I would spend more time wondering why your lot, the Greens polled so badly.


Or...they got 25-35% in a minority of sympathetic and target areas and the significant majority was 6-10% in others to make that 13%.

If the whole of Manchester and the NW voted for 'Betty's Hot Pot Party' would you be calling their share '13% of the national electorate' or a regional anomaly?

LOL - are you that stupid? Every constituency in the country is a 'targeted area' or do you think these parties just turn up on Election Day and hope for the best.
So Kermit - why do you think your lot the Greens polled so few?


Oh, dear. You're still a bit wet behind the ears, aren't you? Teenage angst too? Oh, well.

The Greens? Hmmm..they polled badly because they campaigned badly? Just a thought.

Well that is a thought, another thought would be that they have pie in the sky policies and are followed by people who live in lar lar land. Still, as you say, it’s just a thought. Still I’m sure you were right, it because they didn’t campaign well - nothing to do with the above at all..

 


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Come on Thanet South - champing at the bit here.


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I feel Farage has been hard done by. With the 3rd most votes and only 1 seat. This is why politics are so corrupt

Edited by Daz.CPFC (08 May 2015 10.39am)


Nothing in the South Thanet campaign was about the qualities of the other candidates. It was all about keeping Farage out. All the nasty literature and smears from UAF et al. there paid off.

South Thanet have "not" Farage, but have lost someone who would have actually represented them on a local platform.

1 seat from 13% of the vote. That's why UK politics is such a joke.

Is this the same Farage that didn't appear at any hustings in the constituency he was standing for? Bad move.

 

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Quote Tom-the-eagle at 08 May 2015 11.37am

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Quote Kermit8 at 08 May 2015 11.02am

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Quote Daz.CPFC at 08 May 2015 10.39am

Quote Johnny Eagles at 08 May 2015 10.35am

Quote Kermit8 at 08 May 2015 9.34am

Come on Thanet South - champing at the bit here.


CON Hold


I feel Farage has been hard done by. With the 3rd most votes and only 1 seat. This is why politics are so corrupt

Edited by Daz.CPFC (08 May 2015 10.39am)


Nothing in the South Thanet campaign was about the qualities of the other candidates. It was all about keeping Farage out. All the nasty literature and smears from UAF et al. there paid off.

South Thanet have "not" Farage, but have lost someone who would have actually represented them on a local platform.

1 seat from 13% of the vote. That's why UK politics is such a joke.


UKIP got 6% to 7% around here and lots of other places too. I wouldn't like them to have 13% of the seats in Parliament going by that just because they managed to get well above 13% in a small minority of areas.

They represent a few pockets of the UK quite well but not the main swathe. They just didn't have enough broad appeal.

Edited by Kermit8 (08 May 2015 11.05am)

As usual you are talking out your ass again.
If UKIP gained 6% or 7% of votes where you live or in some other places as you mention then they must also have gained 19% - 20% of votes in other areas because the facts don’t lie - UKIP have polled somewhere around 13% of the national electret. If you take into account the lack of UKIP support in Wales, N Ireland and Scotland then the level of English votes for UKIP is probably up near or around 20%.
If I were you maybe I would spend more time wondering why your lot, the Greens polled so badly.


Or...they got 25-35% in a minority of sympathetic and target areas and the significant majority was 6-10% in others to make that 13%.

If the whole of Manchester and the NW voted for 'Betty's Hot Pot Party' would you be calling their share '13% of the national electorate' or a regional anomaly?

LOL - are you that stupid? Every constituency in the country is a 'targeted area' or do you think these parties just turn up on Election Day and hope for the best.
So Kermit - why do you think your lot the Greens polled so few?


Oh, dear. You're still a bit wet behind the ears, aren't you? Teenage angst too? Oh, well.

The Greens? Hmmm..they polled badly because they campaigned badly? Just a thought.

Well that is a thought, another thought would be that they have pie in the sky policies and are followed by people who live in lar lar land. Still, as you say, it’s just a thought. Still I’m sure you were right, it because they didn’t campaign well - nothing to do with the above at all..

Well actually they don't (not entirely) but its far easier to believe in a stereotype of ageing hippie who weaves jumpers out of his wifes pubic hair whilst eating Venezuelan Fair Trade Vegan Crisps.

Their piece around the revamping of the financial system which essentially allows banks to create money out of thin air currently and dictate economic conditions was the most radical, progressive, far reaching and beneficial to the electorate of ANY parties

The Greens polled badly because, like Labour they elected the wrong leader to represent them. Bennett proved to be an utter liability.

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291 pages devoted to a Party which ended up with one MP.

That's a successful campaign of sorts.


'One MP'. My god that sound's good.

Will be using that later as it's Friday instead of the usual naming of the 1966 World cup winning team.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 08 May 15 12.45pm

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Quote Daz.CPFC at 08 May 2015 10.39am

Quote Johnny Eagles at 08 May 2015 10.35am

Quote Kermit8 at 08 May 2015 9.34am

Come on Thanet South - champing at the bit here.


CON Hold


I feel Farage has been hard done by. With the 3rd most votes and only 1 seat. This is why politics are so corrupt

Edited by Daz.CPFC (08 May 2015 10.39am)


Nothing in the South Thanet campaign was about the qualities of the other candidates. It was all about keeping Farage out. All the nasty literature and smears from UAF et al. there paid off.

South Thanet have "not" Farage, but have lost someone who would have actually represented them on a local platform.

1 seat from 13% of the vote. That's why UK politics is such a joke.


UKIP got 6% to 7% around here and lots of other places too. I wouldn't like them to have 13% of the seats in Parliament going by that just because they managed to get well above 13% in a small minority of areas.

They represent a few pockets of the UK quite well but not the main swathe. They just didn't have enough broad appeal.

Edited by Kermit8 (08 May 2015 11.05am)

I don't like UKIP but they got twice the national percentage of vote that the Lib Dems got. UKIP got one seat, the Lib Dems have 8.

That is neither representational or democratic.

The SNP isn't really a fair example, as that's a different country, but the fact that they nearly doubled the Lib Dem turn out, and still finished behind them in seats points to how f**ked the system is.

Doesn't matter what party the represent or how you feel about them, if you support representative democracy, its impossible to claim its a fair result.

If the SNP was called something different and stood in England, they'd probably have crucified Labour as well, as most peoples only issue with them seems to be a fear of them being Scotish (indeed the Conservatives were more worried about the SNP than Labour).

 


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Quote Johnny Eagles at 08 May 2015 10.35am

Quote Kermit8 at 08 May 2015 9.34am

Come on Thanet South - champing at the bit here.


CON Hold


I feel Farage has been hard done by. With the 3rd most votes and only 1 seat. This is why politics are so corrupt

Edited by Daz.CPFC (08 May 2015 10.39am)


Nothing in the South Thanet campaign was about the qualities of the other candidates. It was all about keeping Farage out. All the nasty literature and smears from UAF et al. there paid off.

South Thanet have "not" Farage, but have lost someone who would have actually represented them on a local platform.

1 seat from 13% of the vote. That's why UK politics is such a joke.


UKIP got 6% to 7% around here and lots of other places too. I wouldn't like them to have 13% of the seats in Parliament going by that just because they managed to get well above 13% in a small minority of areas.

They represent a few pockets of the UK quite well but not the main swathe. They just didn't have enough broad appeal.

Edited by Kermit8 (08 May 2015 11.05am)

I don't like UKIP but they got twice the national percentage of vote that the Lib Dems got. UKIP got one seat, the Lib Dems have 8.

That is neither representational or democratic.

The SNP isn't really a fair example, as that's a different country, but the fact that they nearly doubled the Lib Dem turn out, and still finished behind them in seats points to how f**ked the system is.

Doesn't matter what party the represent or how you feel about them, if you support representative democracy, its impossible to claim its a fair result.

If the SNP was called something different and stood in England, they'd probably have crucified Labour as well, as most peoples only issue with them seems to be a fear of them being Scotish (indeed the Conservatives were more worried about the SNP than Labour).

This with great big hairy f***ing balls on

 


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Quote Johnny Eagles at 08 May 2015 10.35am

Quote Kermit8 at 08 May 2015 9.34am

Come on Thanet South - champing at the bit here.


CON Hold


I feel Farage has been hard done by. With the 3rd most votes and only 1 seat. This is why politics are so corrupt

Edited by Daz.CPFC (08 May 2015 10.39am)


Nothing in the South Thanet campaign was about the qualities of the other candidates. It was all about keeping Farage out. All the nasty literature and smears from UAF et al. there paid off.

South Thanet have "not" Farage, but have lost someone who would have actually represented them on a local platform.

1 seat from 13% of the vote. That's why UK politics is such a joke.


UKIP got 6% to 7% around here and lots of other places too. I wouldn't like them to have 13% of the seats in Parliament going by that just because they managed to get well above 13% in a small minority of areas.

They represent a few pockets of the UK quite well but not the main swathe. They just didn't have enough broad appeal.

Edited by Kermit8 (08 May 2015 11.05am)

As usual you are talking out your ass again.
If UKIP gained 6% or 7% of votes where you live or in some other places as you mention then they must also have gained 19% - 20% of votes in other areas because the facts don’t lie - UKIP have polled somewhere around 13% of the national electret. If you take into account the lack of UKIP support in Wales, N Ireland and Scotland then the level of English votes for UKIP is probably up near or around 20%.
If I were you maybe I would spend more time wondering why your lot, the Greens polled so badly.


Or...they got 25-35% in a minority of sympathetic and target areas and the significant majority was 6-10% in others to make that 13%.

If the whole of Manchester and the NW voted for 'Betty's Hot Pot Party' would you be calling their share '13% of the national electorate' or a regional anomaly?

LOL - are you that stupid? Every constituency in the country is a 'targeted area' or do you think these parties just turn up on Election Day and hope for the best.
So Kermit - why do you think your lot the Greens polled so few?


Oh, dear. You're still a bit wet behind the ears, aren't you? Teenage angst too? Oh, well.

The Greens? Hmmm..they polled badly because they campaigned badly? Just a thought.

They increased their share of the vote and retained their seat. Which of course UKIP's Mr Reckless actually failed to do. A good election but hardly a success give they lost their first seat and their leader failed to get elected.

Interestingly the real success stories of the election are UKIP and the Scotish National Party (who now have the youngest MP since the 17th century, a 20 year old student who hammered her SLP heavyweight opposition).

Labour and the Lib Dems are the losers, but the Conservatives haven't actually increased their share of the vote very significantly.

 


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Come on Thanet South - champing at the bit here.


CON Hold


I feel Farage has been hard done by. With the 3rd most votes and only 1 seat. This is why politics are so corrupt

Edited by Daz.CPFC (08 May 2015 10.39am)


Nothing in the South Thanet campaign was about the qualities of the other candidates. It was all about keeping Farage out. All the nasty literature and smears from UAF et al. there paid off.

South Thanet have "not" Farage, but have lost someone who would have actually represented them on a local platform.

1 seat from 13% of the vote. That's why UK politics is such a joke.


UKIP got 6% to 7% around here and lots of other places too. I wouldn't like them to have 13% of the seats in Parliament going by that just because they managed to get well above 13% in a small minority of areas.

They represent a few pockets of the UK quite well but not the main swathe. They just didn't have enough broad appeal.

Edited by Kermit8 (08 May 2015 11.05am)

I don't like UKIP but they got twice the national percentage of vote that the Lib Dems got. UKIP got one seat, the Lib Dems have 8.

That is neither representational or democratic.

The SNP isn't really a fair example, as that's a different country, but the fact that they nearly doubled the Lib Dem turn out, and still finished behind them in seats points to how f**ked the system is.

Doesn't matter what party the represent or how you feel about them, if you support representative democracy, its impossible to claim its a fair result.

If the SNP was called something different and stood in England, they'd probably have crucified Labour as well, as most peoples only issue with them seems to be a fear of them being Scotish (indeed the Conservatives were more worried about the SNP than Labour).

The SNP bloke I spoke to a couple of weeks ago said he was genuinely surprised by the number of people in England who said they'd vote SNP in their constituency if they stood.

 

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I see Farage has jumped as well as Millipede and Cleggers

 


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CON Hold


I feel Farage has been hard done by. With the 3rd most votes and only 1 seat. This is why politics are so corrupt

Edited by Daz.CPFC (08 May 2015 10.39am)


Nothing in the South Thanet campaign was about the qualities of the other candidates. It was all about keeping Farage out. All the nasty literature and smears from UAF et al. there paid off.

South Thanet have "not" Farage, but have lost someone who would have actually represented them on a local platform.

1 seat from 13% of the vote. That's why UK politics is such a joke.


UKIP got 6% to 7% around here and lots of other places too. I wouldn't like them to have 13% of the seats in Parliament going by that just because they managed to get well above 13% in a small minority of areas.

They represent a few pockets of the UK quite well but not the main swathe. They just didn't have enough broad appeal.

Edited by Kermit8 (08 May 2015 11.05am)

I don't like UKIP but they got twice the national percentage of vote that the Lib Dems got. UKIP got one seat, the Lib Dems have 8.

That is neither representational or democratic.

The SNP isn't really a fair example, as that's a different country, but the fact that they nearly doubled the Lib Dem turn out, and still finished behind them in seats points to how f**ked the system is.

Doesn't matter what party the represent or how you feel about them, if you support representative democracy, its impossible to claim its a fair result.

If the SNP was called something different and stood in England, they'd probably have crucified Labour as well, as most peoples only issue with them seems to be a fear of them being Scotish (indeed the Conservatives were more worried about the SNP than Labour).


Fairness and politics are unlikely bedfellows, don't you think? The system we have isn't fair but nor do I believe PR would be fair. Why on earth should UKIP have 81 MPs - their PR 13% - when on the ground they could only actually muster one? At least the SNP can boast about actually winning constituencies.

The only proper and fair solution is more discriminating and stronger regional governance. More devolution. As in the UKIP MP can actually do something for the residents of Clacton without having to beg to Westminster. Better than just pissing in the wind for the next four or five years.

 


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