Maybe. But, and I accept that I am probably boring about this, be wary of putting to much faith in TR.

Perhaps it says more about my suspicious mind but the more I ponder on what has gone down, the more I suspect that this is all smoke and mirrors.

Bloody hell, part of me is even contemplating trying to find out if I can get odds on TR converting to Islam whilst he is in Prison.

Because this is how the State does it. Build somebody up, turn them into a figurehead and then knock the legs from under them. Albion at its most perfidious.

I appreciate you have no time for conspiracy theories and I understand why but it seems clear that the Deep State, in whatever form you want to understand that, is absolutely hell bent on introducing Islam into Europe as a major force and will not stand by why people gain high-profiles attempting to rally resistance to it.

TR pleaded guilty. This was not about free speech but him knowingly breaking the terms of his suspended sentence. Why?

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

He is more likely to unconvert muslims.
Maybe that will be a reason he took the long walk.
Who knows good may come from this episode.

Anyone else getting the impression that Maple is another diversity tourist? I know I certainly am.

To answer your implicit accusation of racism....(amusing from the guy who wrote that Jews have 'unintentionally' created IQ tests to favour their own intellects). Nevertheless I'll point out my belief system in this area.

Every person deserves to be regarded as an individual and be judged as such. A person's skin colour isn't a commentary on their character.

That's the micro judgement that each person deserves.

Then there's the macro realities of statistics by communities. In other words what happens when we talk about crime, wealth and other criteria.

Here we see significant differences in culture between different communities and unfortunately the left have perverted the debate to such an extent that discussion of factual realities aren't possible without accusations.

These aren't commentaries upon any individuals. They are just factual realities on the macro scale.

You think I want to turn back time? Nope, I'm a realist and I realise the future this country is headed into.

Note dear reader how Maple inserts the far left's self hating anti white, anti male sentiment in there. Because it's so much better for them to display what they regard as acceptable racism and sexism....faux or not.

It's a shame that you feel that way but if you are going to tar this site as 'unwelcoming' because of a few right wing posters...... well, I suggest you frequent the bbs. You will feel right at home at that 'Guardian' loving far left environment.

They make the right feel so welcome over there. Not so many victim players on the right though.

It is true that Robinson has football hooliganism in his past and I don't support that. In fact I think that's an element of him. However his critics are disingenuous or ignorant of the nature of his 'crimes'. He isn't a 'career criminal' but in some cases has been unfairly targeted by the state. I refer you to a Douglas Murray audio piece on this.

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As for the petition, well obviously it's an Internet petition so it's open to Internet users. As for verification, ask them. I should imagine they use IP addresses to ensure they don't get double posts.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Imagine if Tommy stood for election in Rochdale/ rotherham/ or Telford ?

Of course his personal safety is now akin to that of Salman Rushdie. A massive target on his head probably for the rest of his life.

And people on here think he is benefiting from his whole crusade ? Would you swap places with him ?

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

So how exactly are you different from your description?

I don't agree that dual citizenship is good for any country, that's correct, which is the position of several prominent countries around the world who don't allow it..... and I also don't agree that people who bugger off and economically support different countries should have a vote here.

You should be a national of a country and even more importantly paying into the tax system to have a vote on it.....with certain exceptions.

I didn't hold any of those positions say ten years ago and they were all arrived at via discussion and observation of how different people use and abuse their societies.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Thank heavens for small mercies.

You display your prejudices well enough. The BBS is certainly the place for you.