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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Sep 17 12.47pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger That was a fairly good assessment from someone who leans left even so. The important thing is to always be open to the opposite point of view and consider it's reasoning. The trouble is that there are so many knobs on the Left who are only interested in political grandstanding and appearing to be morally superior that it's hard to hear what they say with any enthusiasm. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Sep 2017 12.39pm) What's this got to do with Jacob Rees Mogg. Is it a way of deflection? The bigoted cockwomble hasn't even changed a nappy in his life. That says enough about how out of touch he is.
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Shizzlehurst 07 Sep 17 12.47pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That was a fairly good assessment from someone who leans left even so.
The important thing is to always be open to the opposite point of view and consider it's reasoning.
The trouble is that there are so many knobs on the Left who are only interested in political grandstanding and appearing to be morally superior that it's hard to hear what they say with any enthusiasm.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Sep 2017 12.39pm)

What's this got to do with Jacob Rees Mogg. Is it a way of deflection? The bigoted cockwomble hasn't even changed a nappy in his life. That says enough about how out of touch he is.

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Hrolf The Ganger 07 Sep 17 12.51pm
Originally posted by nickgusset What's this got to do with Jacob Rees Mogg. Is it a way of deflection? The bigoted cockwomble hasn't even changed a nappy in his life. That says enough about how out of touch he is. So you are saying that nappy changing is a fast track to being politically capable? I should have a crack at being Prime Minister then.
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07 Sep 17 12.51pm

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Originally posted by nickgusset

What's this got to do with Jacob Rees Mogg. Is it a way of deflection? The bigoted cockwomble hasn't even changed a nappy in his life. That says enough about how out of touch he is.

So you are saying that nappy changing is a fast track to being politically capable?

I should have a crack at being Prime Minister then.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 07 Sep 17 12.57pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Good post - agree with most of it, although there is still a hint that 'progressives' always know best. Edited by hedgehog50 (07 Sep 2017 10.59am) I don't think they do, but if they're going about it properly, they're having to defend their own positions, which in itself is a good means of critical analysis. Change is inevitable, progressives really are only trying to steer the boat by trying to establish who is best qualified to steer the boat. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 07 Sep 17 12.57pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Good post - agree with most of it, although there is still a hint that 'progressives' always know best.

Edited by hedgehog50 (07 Sep 2017 10.59am)

I don't think they do, but if they're going about it properly, they're having to defend their own positions, which in itself is a good means of critical analysis.

Change is inevitable, progressives really are only trying to steer the boat by trying to establish who is best qualified to steer the boat.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Sep 17 12.59pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger So you are saying that nappy changing is a fast track to being politically capable? I should have a crack at being Prime Minister then. No. It just shows how far removed from the real world he claims to represent . The bloke is a wrong un
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 07 Sep 17 12.59pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So you are saying that nappy changing is a fast track to being politically capable?

I should have a crack at being Prime Minister then.

No. It just shows how far removed from the real world he claims to represent .

The bloke is a wrong un

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Stirlingsays 07 Sep 17 1.02pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I don't really have a problem with people being national socialist or fascist, provided they're not breaking the law. Free world, I don't like it, but f**k it, you're free to believe in what you want. I do have issues with the political parties that 'co-opt' that far right, specifically because they directly target specific groups of legal UK citizens with a view to intimidation, and tend to justify and defend violence committed by their affiliates. Who does that though? I can't think of any mainstream parties that do that. Isn't this like saying Obama is responsible for antifa? Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Sep 2017 1.22pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Sep 17 1.02pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I don't really have a problem with people being national socialist or fascist, provided they're not breaking the law. Free world, I don't like it, but f**k it, you're free to believe in what you want.

I do have issues with the political parties that 'co-opt' that far right, specifically because they directly target specific groups of legal UK citizens with a view to intimidation, and tend to justify and defend violence committed by their affiliates.

Who does that though? I can't think of any mainstream parties that do that. Isn't this like saying Obama is responsible for antifa?

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Sep 2017 1.22pm)

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Hrolf The Ganger 07 Sep 17 1.37pm
Originally posted by nickgusset No. It just shows how far removed from the real world he claims to represent . The bloke is a wrong un Says the man who kisses the arse of Jeremy(friend of terrorists) Corbyn. I can't vouch for Mogg's character. If he is a religious man then he gets marked down in my book and I have no doubt he employs political expediency like all the others. Would I take him over Corbyn? All day.
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Hrolf The Ganger

07 Sep 17 1.37pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

No. It just shows how far removed from the real world he claims to represent .

The bloke is a wrong un

Says the man who kisses the arse of Jeremy(friend of terrorists) Corbyn.
I can't vouch for Mogg's character. If he is a religious man then he gets marked down in my book and I have no doubt he employs political expediency like all the others.
Would I take him over Corbyn? All day.

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beak croydon 07 Sep 17 1.47pm
[Link] Rees-Smug doesn't approve of abortion in any circumstances,that Includes, Incest,child rape etc. Not only does this rule him out of leading the Tory party it also marks him as deeply out of touch with the rest of humankind,personally I am revolted by him and his bilge.
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croydon 07 Sep 17 1.47pm

[Link] Rees-Smug doesn't approve of abortion in any circumstances,that Includes, Incest,child rape etc. Not only does this rule him out of leading the Tory party it also marks him as deeply out of touch with the rest of humankind,personally I am revolted by him and his bilge.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Sep 17 1.52pm
One might vehemiently disagree with the opinion of JRM on this emotive subject but at least he has expressed his honest personal opinion. In politics in this era it is not so much as what one firmly believes in which is important but ensuring what you articulate ticks all the 'Boxes' for the appropriate people. Some might argue that his candour and honesty are to be greatly admired (Irrespective of his views), others that it is reckless politically and political 'Suicide'. Edited by Willo (07 Sep 2017 1.55pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Sep 17 1.52pm

One might vehemiently disagree with the opinion of JRM on this emotive subject but at least he has expressed his honest personal opinion.

In politics in this era it is not so much as what one firmly believes in which is important but ensuring what you articulate ticks all the 'Boxes' for the appropriate people.

Some might argue that his candour and honesty are to be greatly admired (Irrespective of his views), others that it is reckless politically and political 'Suicide'.

Edited by Willo (07 Sep 2017 1.55pm)

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Stirlingsays 07 Sep 17 1.58pm
Originally posted by beak [Link] Rees-Smug doesn't approve of abortion in any circumstances,that Includes, Incest,child rape etc. Not only does this rule him out of leading the Tory party it also marks him as deeply out of touch with the rest of humankind,personally I am revolted by him and his bilge. Gets us somewhere that doesn't it. One thing that unites the extremes of political positions on both the right and the left is their willingness to be disgusted by the opinion of their opposites. It's never very helpful. We burn things we find disgusting. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

07 Sep 17 1.58pm

Originally posted by beak

Gets us somewhere that doesn't it.

One thing that unites the extremes of political positions on both the right and the left is their willingness to be disgusted by the opinion of their opposites.

It's never very helpful.

We burn things we find disgusting.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 07 Sep 17 2.00pm
Originally posted by beak Rees-Smug I've got to say though. Rees-Smug.....that's genuinely hilarious. Very smart...but yeah...very smug. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

07 Sep 17 2.00pm

Originally posted by beak

Rees-Smug

I've got to say though.

Rees-Smug.....that's genuinely hilarious.

Very smart...but yeah...very smug.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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hedgehog50 Croydon 07 Sep 17 2.38pm
Originally posted by beak [Link] Rees-Smug doesn't approve of abortion in any circumstances,that Includes, Incest,child rape etc. Not only does this rule him out of leading the Tory party it also marks him as deeply out of touch with the rest of humankind,personally I am revolted by him and his bilge. Is a child of incest or rape more deserving of being aborted? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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hedgehog50

Croydon 07 Sep 17 2.38pm

Originally posted by beak

Is a child of incest or rape more deserving of being aborted?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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leifandersonshair Newport 07 Sep 17 2.44pm
Originally posted by Willo One might vehemiently disagree with the opinion of JRM on this emotive subject but at least he has expressed his honest personal opinion. In politics in this era it is not so much as what one firmly believes in which is important but ensuring what you articulate ticks all the 'Boxes' for the appropriate people. Some might argue that his candour and honesty are to be greatly admired (Irrespective of his views), others that it is reckless politically and political 'Suicide'. Edited by Willo (07 Sep 2017 1.55pm) Wait... what? So, express some extremely controversial views, get points for honesty? His views aren't just pretty oout of touch to the wider electorate, they're pretty extreme even within the Conservative Party. Perhaps he'd be more at home in the fundamentalist right of the US Republican party?
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Originally posted by Willo

One might vehemiently disagree with the opinion of JRM on this emotive subject but at least he has expressed his honest personal opinion.

In politics in this era it is not so much as what one firmly believes in which is important but ensuring what you articulate ticks all the 'Boxes' for the appropriate people.

Some might argue that his candour and honesty are to be greatly admired (Irrespective of his views), others that it is reckless politically and political 'Suicide'.

Edited by Willo (07 Sep 2017 1.55pm)

Wait... what? So, express some extremely controversial views, get points for honesty?

His views aren't just pretty oout of touch to the wider electorate, they're pretty extreme even within the Conservative Party. Perhaps he'd be more at home in the fundamentalist right of the US Republican party?

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