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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 27 Jul 16 3.03pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

Black people are being killed with impunity, but not by cops. Every 14 hours a black male is murdered in Chicago. Shall we speak about that, will Fox News have phone ins? Will politicians condemn it? Will people march in the streets?

No,(mainly) white liberals don't seem to care... White people get held to a higher standard than some black dude from the ghetto. White man kills a black guy= criminal, put him in jail. Black guy kills another black....nothing,it's like we think ah well... What do you expect?

We should all be held accountable for our actions, and as long as the white liberal puts the bar so lo for black people, they will continue to kill each other.


When black people kill black people, the cops investigate and the perpetrators are mostly brought to justice. This is one of the reasons why America's jails are disproportionately chock full of black men.

When cops kill black people, it's rarely investigated and, when it is, the cops almost always walk free.
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You're failure to recognise this fundamental difference between these two problems can only be, at this point, deliberate.

Edited by Ray in Houston (27 Jul 2016 3.04pm)

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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7mins Flag In the bush 27 Jul 16 3.11pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I don't see how this relates to Police officers killing people with excessive force. You seem to have a divergent view that thinks that the Black Civil Rights movement should do what you want, rather than its own remit.

And Black Civil Rights movements are very big on the issue of black on black murder and gang violence. Just not this one.


When questioned about the black on black crime, BLM said that wasn't their priority right now. It's absurd to me that BLM won't speak about the far greater numbers of black people killed by black people. Maybe they should rename their ideology (I won't call it a organisation).

*Blacks are 200x more likely to commit crime against whites, than whites are against blacks
Source: National Crime Victim Survey

Why isn't there a White lives Matter... the stats prove they are more likely to be victims of crimes from blacks?

Also in 99% of the cases, if you comply with the police, then nothing happens

 

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7mins Flag In the bush 27 Jul 16 3.24pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Why do people cherry pick stats...
More blacks make up the prison population...
Well, blacks commit more crime...aghhh you're racist!

It's almost impossible to have a adult discussion on it.

dude resists arrest, he is armed and reaches for gun, police shout warning, then shoot him.
Seems fair enough to me.
White Graphic Designer in Surrey says "nooooo, they shouldn't have killed him, the guy shot is the victim" Even thou he resisted arrest, was armed and already threatened to kill someone.

It's utter bulls***...i'm all for being liberal, but this is getting f***in pathetic.

Just look at the numbers... don't watch the news where FOX/CNN/SKY sensationalise it, so they get viewing figures to bump up their advertising profits, look at the stats, be brave enough to spk your mind without fear or favour, try to find what is the root cause and try to affect change, or at least have a opinion that is informed. Be prepared to have your views changed, be prepared to hear some uncomfortable truths, avoid biased viewpoints

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 27 Jul 16 3.28pm

Originally posted by 7mins


When questioned about the black on black crime, BLM said that wasn't their priority right now. It's absurd to me that BLM won't speak about the far greater numbers of black people killed by black people. Maybe they should rename their ideology (I won't call it a organisation).

Because other groups are focused specifically on that. It may seem absurd to you, but it seems pretty sensible, to focus on areas where there are no pre-existing groups.

BLM is their name, not their mission statement.

Originally posted by 7mins

*Blacks are 200x more likely to commit crime against whites, than whites are against blacks
Source: National Crime Victim Survey

And they're also likely to be properly investigated by the police, and pursued by the criminal justice system. Which means, system in place, works (and in their favour).

Originally posted by 7mins
Why isn't there a White lives Matter... the stats prove they are more likely to be victims of crimes from blacks?

Because you're reducing the entire campaign of BLM to their name, not the issue?

Originally posted by 7mins

Also in 99% of the cases, if you comply with the police, then nothing happens

Hahahahhhahahhah hahhahahaha that's the most naïve view of the police I've ever heard. Even in the UK, as a white man, I find that to be absurdly untrue, and as a football fan utter nonsense.

 


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7mins Flag In the bush 27 Jul 16 3.33pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston


When black people kill black people, the cops investigate and the perpetrators are mostly brought to justice. This is one of the reasons why America's jails are disproportionately chock full of black men.

When cops kill black people, it's rarely investigated and, when it is, the cops almost always walk free.
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You're failure to recognise this fundamental difference between these two problems can only be, at this point, deliberate.

Edited by Ray in Houston (27 Jul 2016 3.04pm)

Or... justice was served, tell me the parts of the Freddie Gray case that you find illegal?

Also what is your opinion of Marilyn J. Mosby, and the part she played?

 

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7mins Flag In the bush 27 Jul 16 3.35pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Hahahahhhahahhah hahhahahaha that's the most naïve view of the police I've ever heard. Even in the UK, as a white man, I find that to be absurdly untrue, and as a football fan utter nonsense.

As a mixed race man, I've never had a single problem with a police officer... even when I got a ticket for not wearing my seat-belt (there is a thread on here)

 

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7mins Flag In the bush 27 Jul 16 3.37pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Hahahahhhahahhah hahhahahaha that's the most naïve view of the police I've ever heard. Even in the UK, as a white man, I find that to be absurdly untrue, and as a football fan utter nonsense.

You suggest the police aren't properly investigated, have you any evidence for this?
Or is it, you don't get the decision you wanted?
Are suggesting the justice system is rigged?

 

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7mins Flag In the bush 27 Jul 16 3.39pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Also...what is the issue BLM are fighting... it started out as violence against blacks after the Zimmerman trial... but quickly changed when they realised the biggest killer of blacks is... go on have a guess.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 27 Jul 16 3.45pm

Originally posted by 7mins

Why do people cherry pick stats...
More blacks make up the prison population...
Well, blacks commit more crime...aghhh you're racist!

It's almost impossible to have a adult discussion on it.

dude resists arrest, he is armed and reaches for gun, police shout warning, then shoot him.
Seems fair enough to me.

White Graphic Designer in Surrey says "nooooo, they shouldn't have killed him, the guy shot is the victim" Even thou he resisted arrest, was armed and already threatened to kill someone.

It's utter bulls***...i'm all for being liberal, but this is getting f***in pathetic.

Just look at the numbers... don't watch the news where FOX/CNN/SKY sensationalise it, so they get viewing figures to bump up their advertising profits, look at the stats, be brave enough to spk your mind without fear or favour, try to find what is the root cause and try to affect change, or at least have a opinion that is informed. Be prepared to have your views changed, be prepared to hear some uncomfortable truths, avoid biased viewpoints

I think that's reasonable, but you still need an independent body to verify the shooting and use of force - Shooting in self defence.

However, in several of the stories that have come up, include that of white Dylan Noble, the going for a gun is definitely not the case.

I guess it depends if you think the police shouldn't be held accountable for their actions that result in killing someone. Personally, when the state kills, even if its probably in self defence, I want that clarified by people who don't have a vested interest in a specific verdict.

It doesn't matter to me, what race they are. I would want every single shooting by a police officer independently investigated.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 27 Jul 16 3.47pm

Originally posted by 7mins

Also...what is the issue BLM are fighting... it started out as violence against blacks after the Zimmerman trial... but quickly changed when they realised the biggest killer of blacks is... go on have a guess.

Jesus?

 


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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 27 Jul 16 3.49pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

Or... justice was served, tell me the parts of the Freddie Gray case that you find illegal?

Also what is your opinion of Marilyn J. Mosby, and the part she played?


"Justice" was served? Or, once again, the court system is rendered impotent when faced with prosecuting a close-knit group of police officers.

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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7mins Flag In the bush 27 Jul 16 3.52pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston


"Justice" was served? Or, once again, the court system is rendered impotent when faced with prosecuting a close-knit group of police officers.

Do you know anything about this case?

 

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