We simply don't have the housing infrastructure to even house the British population here.....The numbers of sons and daughters living at home is ridiculous.

Those who advocate open door immigration.....which we currently have from the EU or indeed from anywhere else just simply don't care about the British lower class.

The length of time it takes to build housing or the cost doesn't really factor into their thought process.

This isn't even taking into account the feelings of any local population to having the character of their living places changed by massive population increases over short times......No if they object to that they are labelled racists in their own country.

Nor is there any care as too how the local job market is affected.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Aug 2015 11.47am)

We probably do (empty properties etc) we don't have the will or allocate resources sufficiently to do so. I don't think the housing crisis is directly a result of immigration, but the use of property as an investment and the elimination of council properties. Working migrants also require accommodation, and have to pay for it. The only exception are Asylum Applicants (who get housing benefit) and they make up a rather small percentage of migrants.

its a factor, but the reality of the housing market is a lack of regulation and control on prices, must notably in terms of controlling rents.

I agree with you on EU working migration as that kept wages out of synch with the cost of living and that's a factor in the problem, but then the state if it wanted to could have controlled that issue by raising minimum wages in line with the actual cost of living.

Which they deliberately avoided doing. But I agree you can't have an open door immigration policy (which we don't not really), regulation of all systems is necessary to maintain a stable and controllable situation.

The reality is that the EU working migration laws weren't about the nations of the EU's best interests, but the profitability of corporate interests in certain EU states (provision of cheap low and skilled labour, to fill vacancies in other nations, that otherwise would have created competition for employees).

No,those amongst such people who appear to be harbouring racist sentiments (and I presume you don't suggest there are none such)are labelled racists.

You refer to EU free movement of goods,service and labour. You make a blanket assertion that anyone agreeing with this free movement must not even give any consideration whatsoever to the many causes of our housing situation or don't care a jot about the "lower classes", (a strange term, lets say those towards the bottom end of the socio-economic spectrum), is simply absurd. You don't assist the credibility of the arguments you want to make by making ludicrous generalisations (the same kind of sweeping generalisations you complain about if made in respect of anyone being anti-EU,for example).

I beg to differ.

The sentiment initially in this very thread (or the other one) was that if there are people attempting to enter the UK who aren't fleeing war or persecution, they're still entitled to seek a better life here, supported by the dozen articles on the economic benefit of migration. And anyone saying thanks but no thanks was branded a racist.

They're finally coming around to the fact that doing away with borders, ie Schengen, was f***ing daft.

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