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mcduh 22 Jul 15 11.46pm | |
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The Confederate flag, and the Confederacy itself's historic purpose is clear. The flag's contemporary use is totally tasteless and in fact, it's *aggressively* tasteless and belies a really embarrassing level of ignorance. And unfortunately, although these links to olde tyme documents and interviews from this year with black people who live in the UK and Ireland, etc. are interesting and informational to those of us who "get it," they are doomed to fail in the effort we're posting them: because right-wing white people live in a hyper-avoidant alternate reality.
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 23 Jul 15 12.20am | |
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Quote mcduh at 22 Jul 2015 11.46pm
The Confederate flag, and the Confederacy itself's historic purpose is clear. The flag's contemporary use is totally tasteless and in fact, it's *aggressively* tasteless and belies a really embarrassing level of ignorance. And unfortunately, although these links to olde tyme documents and interviews from this year with black people who live in the UK and Ireland, etc. are interesting and informational to those of us who "get it," they are doomed to fail in the effort we're posting them: because right-wing white people live in a hyper-avoidant alternate reality.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Jul 15 12.32am | |
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Quote Jimenez at 23 Jul 2015 12.20am
Quote mcduh at 22 Jul 2015 11.46pm
The Confederate flag, and the Confederacy itself's historic purpose is clear. The flag's contemporary use is totally tasteless and in fact, it's *aggressively* tasteless and belies a really embarrassing level of ignorance. And unfortunately, although these links to olde tyme documents and interviews from this year with black people who live in the UK and Ireland, etc. are interesting and informational to those of us who "get it," they are doomed to fail in the effort we're posting them: because right-wing white people live in a hyper-avoidant alternate reality.
Are you a rockabilly rebel rouser?
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mcduh 23 Jul 15 1.20am | |
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I'm strictly Edwardian.
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 23 Jul 15 2.41am | |
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Quote nickgusset at 23 Jul 2015 12.32am
Quote Jimenez at 23 Jul 2015 12.20am
Quote mcduh at 22 Jul 2015 11.46pm
The Confederate flag, and the Confederacy itself's historic purpose is clear. The flag's contemporary use is totally tasteless and in fact, it's *aggressively* tasteless and belies a really embarrassing level of ignorance. And unfortunately, although these links to olde tyme documents and interviews from this year with black people who live in the UK and Ireland, etc. are interesting and informational to those of us who "get it," they are doomed to fail in the effort we're posting them: because right-wing white people live in a hyper-avoidant alternate reality.
Are you a rockabilly rebel rouser?
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MikeT Burlington (Toronto Area) 23 Jul 15 3.31pm | |
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mcduh 28 Jul 15 12.36am | |
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What these flags needed was a disclaimer. "Melissa Alford says videos show the aftermath of an ugly incident — a convoy of Confederate flag-bearing pickup trucks and their passengers interrupting a black child’s birthday party with threats and racial epithets."
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7mins In the bush 28 Jul 15 1.05am | |
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Just back from America....country is screwed. Both sides are as bad as each other.
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mcduh 29 Jul 15 1.19am | |
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The "all lives matter" thing is, for lack of a better word....wack. Imagine that you’re sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don’t get any. So you say “I should get my fair share.” And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, “everyone should get their fair share.” Now, that’s a wonderful sentiment — indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad’s smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn’t solve the problem that you still haven’t gotten any! The problem is that the statement “I should get my fair share” had an implicit “too” at the end: “I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else.” But your dad’s response treated your statement as though you meant “only I should get my fair share”, which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that “everyone should get their fair share,” while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.
The problem is that, in practice, the world doesn’t work that way. You see the film Nightcrawler? You know the part where Renee Russo tells Jake Gyllenhal that she doesn’t want footage of a black or latino person dying, she wants news stories about affluent white people being killed? That’s not made up out of whole cloth — there is a news bias toward stories that the majority of the audience (who are white) can identify with. So when a young black man gets killed (prior to the recent police shootings), it’s generally not considered “news”, while a middle-aged white woman being killed is treated as news. And to a large degree, that is accurate — young black men are killed in significantly disproportionate numbers, which is why we don’t treat it as anything new. But the result is that, societally, we don’t pay as much attention to certain people’s deaths as we do to others. So, currently, we don’t treat all lives as though they matter equally. Just like asking dad for your fair share, the phrase “black lives matter” also has an implicit “too” at the end: it’s saying that black lives should also matter. But responding to this by saying “all lives matter” is willfully going back to ignoring the problem. It’s a way of dismissing the statement by falsely suggesting that it means “only black lives matter,” when that is obviously not the case. And so saying “all lives matter” as a direct response to “black lives matter” is essentially saying that we should just go back to ignoring the problem.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Jul 15 9.59am | |
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Quote Jimenez at 23 Jul 2015 2.41am
Quote nickgusset at 23 Jul 2015 12.32am
Quote Jimenez at 23 Jul 2015 12.20am
Quote mcduh at 22 Jul 2015 11.46pm
The Confederate flag, and the Confederacy itself's historic purpose is clear. The flag's contemporary use is totally tasteless and in fact, it's *aggressively* tasteless and belies a really embarrassing level of ignorance. And unfortunately, although these links to olde tyme documents and interviews from this year with black people who live in the UK and Ireland, etc. are interesting and informational to those of us who "get it," they are doomed to fail in the effort we're posting them: because right-wing white people live in a hyper-avoidant alternate reality.
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