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Tickled pink Cornwall 17 Feb 21 1.21pm
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill Correct. lol
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Cornwall 17 Feb 21 1.21pm

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Correct.

lol

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Putitout Oxford 17 Feb 21 1.28pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink The fans who want him gone yesterday all believe the reason we are struggling is purely because our manager hasn't a clue what he's doing with players out of position and players not being picked to play not to mention subs and the wrong formations lol Well if they think that , maybe it’s them that should have had a career in football taking them all round Europe, employed by some of the top organisations in the world. Only to be accused of not having a clue. It’s easy to judge from your armchair, having none of the restraints of actually being in the mix. Listening to the fans invariably has led to further struggle, Its common place. This is a case of a team not in the bottom three . Some way above in fact, .having a bad period. Not the moment to change a manager. And to think there is any reality in the charge this man doesn’t have clue is laughable. If he doesn’t , and the fans do, then how easy can getting results in the Premier division be? Maybe we should all give it a go.
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Oxford 17 Feb 21 1.28pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

The fans who want him gone yesterday all believe the reason we are struggling is purely because our manager hasn't a clue what he's doing with players out of position and players not being picked to play not to mention subs and the wrong formations lol

Well if they think that , maybe it’s them that should have had a career in football taking them all round Europe, employed by some of the top organisations in the world. Only to be accused of not having a clue.
It’s easy to judge from your armchair, having none of the restraints of actually being in the mix.
Listening to the fans invariably has led to further struggle, Its common place.
This is a case of a team not in the bottom three . Some way above in fact, .having a bad period. Not the moment to change a manager. And to think there is any reality in the charge this man doesn’t have clue is laughable. If he doesn’t , and the fans do, then how easy can getting results in the Premier division be? Maybe we should all give it a go.

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PatrickA London 17 Feb 21 1.46pm
If the criteria for having a valid opinion is having been employed by clubs around Europe then there's no point in having a forum as I doubt anybody on here would qualify. Furthermore, being employed by clubs around Europe does not necessarily equate to brilliance (see Avram Grant , Andres Villas Boas). I dispute that Hodgson is anything other than bang average but am happy to see his term at Palace limp on until the end of the season, provided we don't lose the next couple of games.
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London 17 Feb 21 1.46pm

If the criteria for having a valid opinion is having been employed by clubs around Europe then there's no point in having a forum as I doubt anybody on here would qualify.
Furthermore, being employed by clubs around Europe does not necessarily equate to brilliance (see Avram Grant , Andres Villas Boas).
I dispute that Hodgson is anything other than bang average but am happy to see his term at Palace limp on until the end of the season, provided we don't lose the next couple of games.

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Putitout Oxford 17 Feb 21 2.44pm
Originally posted by PatrickA If the criteria for having a valid opinion is having been employed by clubs around Europe then there's no point in having a forum as I doubt anybody on here would qualify. Furthermore, being employed by clubs around Europe does not necessarily equate to brilliance (see Avram Grant , Andres Villas Boas). I dispute that Hodgson is anything other than bang average but am happy to see his term at Palace limp on until the end of the season, provided we don't lose the next couple of games. Expressing an opinion on this forum is valid, it’s what it’s for as much as any other reason. But then giving reasons why that opinion might contain flaws is also valid, Mentioning the broad extent of the career of someone, who is being accused of incompetence, by people of no experience, and so possibly of no competence is valid, but it doesn’t exclude the original opinion competent or otherwise. It merely disputes the opinion. You said it yourself, we all as supporters see these things in different ways Few football managers in jobs, could ever claim to be brilliant.I don’t think anyone is saying Roy, is brilliant , just that he is not totally responsible for the majority of the problems that lie behind our present run of form. And so just going after his head is not the best option. Edited by Putitout (17 Feb 2021 2.47pm)
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Putitout

Oxford 17 Feb 21 2.44pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

Expressing an opinion on this forum is valid, it’s what it’s for as much as any other reason. But then giving reasons why that opinion might contain flaws is also valid,
Mentioning the broad extent of the career of someone, who is being accused of incompetence, by people of no experience, and so possibly of no competence is valid, but it doesn’t exclude the original opinion competent or otherwise. It merely disputes the opinion.
You said it yourself, we all as supporters see these things in different ways
Few football managers in jobs, could ever claim to be brilliant.I don’t think anyone is saying Roy, is brilliant , just that he is not totally responsible for the majority of the problems that lie behind our present run of form. And so just going after his head is not the best option.

Edited by Putitout (17 Feb 2021 2.47pm)

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Davepalace707 Northumberland 17 Feb 21 6.23pm
Originally posted by Putitout Expressing an opinion on this forum is valid, it’s what it’s for as much as any other reason. But then giving reasons why that opinion might contain flaws is also valid, Mentioning the broad extent of the career of someone, who is being accused of incompetence, by people of no experience, and so possibly of no competence is valid, but it doesn’t exclude the original opinion competent or otherwise. It merely disputes the opinion. You said it yourself, TV we all as supporters see these things in different ways Few football managers in jobs, could ever claim to be brilliant.I don’t think anyone is saying Roy, is brilliant , just that he is not totally responsible for the majority of the problems that lie behind our present run of form. And so just going after his head is not the best option. Edited by Putitout (17 Feb 2021 2.47pm) Correct
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Davepalace707

Northumberland 17 Feb 21 6.23pm

Originally posted by Putitout

Expressing an opinion on this forum is valid, it’s what it’s for as much as any other reason. But then giving reasons why that opinion might contain flaws is also valid,
Mentioning the broad extent of the career of someone, who is being accused of incompetence, by people of no experience, and so possibly of no competence is valid, but it doesn’t exclude the original opinion competent or otherwise. It merely disputes the opinion.
You said it yourself, TV we all as supporters see these things in different ways
Few football managers in jobs, could ever claim to be brilliant.I don’t think anyone is saying Roy, is brilliant , just that he is not totally responsible for the majority of the problems that lie behind our present run of form. And so just going after his head is not the best option.

Edited by Putitout (17 Feb 2021 2.47pm)

Correct

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Davepalace707 Northumberland 17 Feb 21 6.44pm
Originally posted by Davepalace707 Correct As in we as supporters all see things in different ways
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Davepalace707

Northumberland 17 Feb 21 6.44pm

Originally posted by Davepalace707

Correct

As in we as supporters all see things in different ways

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robdave2k 17 Feb 21 7.20pm
Originally posted by Davepalace707 Correct Roy does himself. “Of course, my track record, if people bothered to study it, would put me in the same category as [Sir Alex] Ferguson enjoys today, Given that Roy does believe he knows best, then it’s a mystery why a coach who has worked all around the world can’t adapt when plan a fails - and plan a is failing a lot.
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robdave2k

17 Feb 21 7.20pm

Originally posted by Davepalace707

Correct

Roy does himself.

“Of course, my track record, if people bothered to study it, would put me in the same category as [Sir Alex] Ferguson enjoys today,

Given that Roy does believe he knows best, then it’s a mystery why a coach who has worked all around the world can’t adapt when plan a fails - and plan a is failing a lot.

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jeeagles 17 Feb 21 7.27pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink Our players know full well that they can't repeat that performance again but if they do they'd better at least get another point otherwise ...... They knew that after Liverpool and Villa.
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jeeagles

17 Feb 21 7.27pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Our players know full well that they can't repeat that performance again but if they do they'd better at least get another point otherwise ......

They knew that after Liverpool and Villa.

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crystal-purley Purley 17 Feb 21 8.20pm
We need points, new blood, stability and confidence. Each of those is dependent on the others except new blood and we should have brought someone in (along with Mateta) which would have helped. The draw tonight helps us and leaves both of them losing two points. Luck doesn't always smile though. Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).
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We need points, new blood, stability and confidence. Each of those is dependent on the others except new blood and we should have brought someone in (along with Mateta) which would have helped. The draw tonight helps us and leaves both of them losing two points. Luck doesn't always smile though.

Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 17 Feb 21 9.46pm
Originally posted by PatrickA It's not guessing. It's in the post match interviews where he's said the games had gone from us at 2-0 down. At least he didn't say more recently that he was worried that the score would 'be aggravated'if we tried to get back in the game to quote the quaint phrase he uses. Doubt we would have had 'Crystalbul' under his management. The post match interviews are recorded with hindsight as you well know. Only a cretin would conclude we didn't lose the game in the first ten minutes.
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17 Feb 21 9.46pm

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Originally posted by PatrickA

It's not guessing.
It's in the post match interviews where he's said the games had gone from us at 2-0 down.
At least he didn't say more recently that he was worried that the score would 'be aggravated'if we tried to get back in the game to quote the quaint phrase he uses.
Doubt we would have had 'Crystalbul' under his management.

The post match interviews are recorded with hindsight as you well know. Only a cretin would conclude we didn't lose the game in the first ten minutes.

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Eaglecoops CR3 17 Feb 21 9.55pm
Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid The post match interviews are recorded with hindsight as you well know. Only a cretin would conclude we didn't lose the game in the first ten minutes. You may not lose the game in the first 10, but it would appear our manager gives up if we are 2 down after the same period.
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Eaglecoops

CR3 17 Feb 21 9.55pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

The post match interviews are recorded with hindsight as you well know. Only a cretin would conclude we didn't lose the game in the first ten minutes.

You may not lose the game in the first 10, but it would appear our manager gives up if we are 2 down after the same period.

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PatrickA London 17 Feb 21 9.57pm
When I last looked at the rules the game lasts 90 plus minutes not 10 minutes. Only a cretin who didn’t understand the rules would think otherwise. We were 3-0 down to Liverpool and came back to draw 3-3. But that was under a manager who knew how to compete for the whole match.
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PatrickA

London 17 Feb 21 9.57pm

When I last looked at the rules the game lasts 90 plus minutes not 10 minutes.
Only a cretin who didn’t understand the rules would think otherwise.
We were 3-0 down to Liverpool and came back to draw 3-3.
But that was under a manager who knew how to compete for the whole match.

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