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 Badger11  Beckenham 21 May 20 9.33am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If you really want to understand why this is probably being done in the way it is just read back the last few days comments in this thread. Accusations and assertions galore along with what feels like suggestions of direct action. Attacking those responsible for clearing up the mess does nothing to actually clear it up. Blowing hot air at a problem over the internet can though result in antisocial and destructive behaviour. Just look at the example of the attacks on the cell phone masts caused by the 5G conspiracy theories. Diverting Police resources to deal with such things, especially at this time, is hardly going to help them track and trace the perpetrators involved in these awful crimes is it? And, like it or not, that's their job and no-one else's! If there have been past failures then assume the lessons have been learned and then judge whether they have when the results of the current actions become clear. Which will be much later. I look forward to seeing your name in the honours list you are a stalwart defender of the establishment the least they can do is recognise your contribution.
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| Stirlingsays 21 May 20 9.51am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Some "Britain first" bloke just got found guilty of terror offences. I bet they nail him. I'm not a fan of that group but I think that terror charge was based upon him not giving them his phone, which is a ridiculous basis to call it terror related. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 May 2020 9.55am)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 21 May 20 10.02am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm not a fan of that group but I think that terror charge was based upon him not giving them his phone, which is a ridiculous basis to call it terror related. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 May 2020 9.55am) I think they are scum however at the moment they are not an illegal organisation. According to the police they do not need a justification to ask for his phone under the terrorist legislation. The Americans would call that a fishing expedition, hoping to find some illegal activity. It does concern me it's one thing to say this person is a terrorist and should hand over their phone it's something else to do this just because you are a loathsome individual. What would happen if they did that to Corbyn he's probably met more terrorists in his lifetime that this bloke.
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| Stirlingsays 21 May 20 10.33am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I think they are scum however at the moment they are not an illegal organisation. According to the police they do not need a justification to ask for his phone under the terrorist legislation. The Americans would call that a fishing expedition, hoping to find some illegal activity. It does concern me it's one thing to say this person is a terrorist and should hand over their phone it's something else to do this just because you are a loathsome individual. What would happen if they did that to Corbyn he's probably met more terrorists in his lifetime that this bloke. Looking at their website I think I confused them with another group.
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| dannyboy1978 21 May 20 10.48am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If you really want to understand why this is probably being done in the way it is just read back the last few days comments in this thread. Accusations and assertions galore along with what feels like suggestions of direct action. Attacking those responsible for clearing up the mess does nothing to actually clear it up. Blowing hot air at a problem over the internet can though result in antisocial and destructive behaviour. Just look at the example of the attacks on the cell phone masts caused by the 5G conspiracy theories. Diverting Police resources to deal with such things, especially at this time, is hardly going to help them track and trace the perpetrators involved in these awful crimes is it? And, like it or not, that's their job and no-one else's! If there have been past failures then assume the lessons have been learned and then judge whether they have when the results of the current actions become clear. Which will be much later. I go back to the Hillsborough disaster, people had to fight for the truth. The government want an easy life ,the police want an easy life, councils want an easy life all at the cost of young girls. No stone in turned, I don't think one stone has been unturned yet.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 May 20 10.58am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I look forward to seeing your name in the honours list you are a stalwart defender of the establishment the least they can do is recognise your contribution. I am not "defending" anyone. All I am doing is expressing an opinion on why the situation might be being handled as it is and suggesting that only the perspective of time will allow a measured appraisal.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 May 20 11.05am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
I go back to the Hillsborough disaster, people had to fight for the truth. The government want an easy life ,the police want an easy life, councils want an easy life all at the cost of young girls. No stone in turned, I don't think one stone has been unturned yet. The Hillsborough disaster was different in that it was a one-off event that could be seen in its entirety. This involves ongoing investigations and cases. As an aside, I remain unsure that we still know the whole truth about Hillsborough or whether we know only that part of the truth that a particular section of those involved want us to know. That though is another issue which should be left undisturbed as to rake it over again won't achieve anything.
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| dannyboy1978 21 May 20 1.02pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The Hillsborough disaster was different in that it was a one-off event that could be seen in its entirety. This involves ongoing investigations and cases. As an aside, I remain unsure that we still know the whole truth about Hillsborough or whether we know only that part of the truth that a particular section of those involved want us to know. That though is another issue which should be left undisturbed as to rake it over again won't achieve anything. "Undisturbed" so the guilty get away with it. Sums your twisted thinking up. Your like the government, just keep things quite for an easy life.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 May 20 4.23pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
"Undisturbed" so the guilty get away with it. Sums your twisted thinking up. Your like the government, just keep things quite for an easy life.
I suspect you have got completely the wrong end of the stick as to what I meant, but never mind. You do though seem to make quite a habit of it.
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| Spiderman Horsham 21 May 20 5.32pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If you really want to understand why this is probably being done in the way it is just read back the last few days comments in this thread. Accusations and assertions galore along with what feels like suggestions of direct action. Attacking those responsible for clearing up the mess does nothing to actually clear it up. Blowing hot air at a problem over the internet can though result in antisocial and destructive behaviour. Just look at the example of the attacks on the cell phone masts caused by the 5G conspiracy theories. Diverting Police resources to deal with such things, especially at this time, is hardly going to help them track and trace the perpetrators involved in these awful crimes is it? And, like it or not, that's their job and no-one else's! If there have been past failures then assume the lessons have been learned and then judge whether they have when the results of the current actions become clear. Which will be much later. Anti social and destructive behaviour, you mean like those involved?
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| Spiderman Horsham 21 May 20 5.37pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I suspect you have got completely the wrong end of the stick as to what I meant, but never mind. You do though seem to make quite a habit of it. I probably know more about the Hillsborough enquiry than anyone else on here, as a close relative worked for the Independent Police Commission at the time.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 21 May 20 5.55pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I probably know more about the Hillsborough enquiry than anyone else on here, as a close relative worked for the Independent Police Commission at the time.
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