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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 06 Dec 20 10.11pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

You can only beat what is in front of you. In those situations in the past we have struggled. Today we took the game to them after the break and once we scored the second there was only going to be one winner.

Yes we took full control of the situation WBA allowed us and that was excellent from our squad and not only that it provided much needed confidence especially for Benteke which is brilliant news.

 

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Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 06 Dec 20 11.14pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

Yes I did watch the game. Very closely.

We were better for first 10/15 minutes then they had a better spell till the sending off. No different than most games in this division in the first half.

The momentum? Win the game? He was sent off in the 34th minute not the 89th.

We could have easily beaten Burnley and Newcastle and nobody could have said we didn’t deserve points. We beat Leeds 4-1 and fans like yourself are straight on here complaining that we wouldn’t have won only for their disallowed goal.

Pathetic.

Yes, they had the momentum. West Brom conceded an own goal, their tails were up after they scored their equaliser, they were playing better than us and looked like scoring again, as at the time we were defending very poorly. The sending off of Pereira changed the game completely.

We took advantage of it, for which I am very grateful, but it doesn’t change the fact that we were poor up until they were reduced to ten men. It doesn’t change the fact that we were also extremely poor against Chelsea, Brighton, Wolves, Burnley & Newcastle in our previous games and there is nothing pathetic in suggesting that Leeds would’ve gone on to win, had their perfectly good goal not been disallowed by VAR, because it was a distinct possibility the way the game was going.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Dec 20 11.23pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

Yes, they had the momentum. West Brom conceded an own goal, their tails were up after they scored their equaliser, they were playing better than us and looked like scoring again, as at the time we were defending very poorly. The sending off of Pereira changed the game completely.

We took advantage of it, for which I am very grateful, but it doesn’t change the fact that we were poor up until they were reduced to ten men. It doesn’t change the fact that we were also extremely poor against Chelsea, Brighton, Wolves, Burnley & Newcastle in our previous games and there is nothing pathetic in suggesting that Leeds would’ve gone on to win, had their perfectly good goal not been disallowed by VAR, because it was a distinct possibility the way the game was going.

The VAR technology indicated that Bamford was offside,albeit exceedingly narrowly.

Regards today's win, of course I am delighted but of course there were phases in the game when we were not too impressive.
In the final analysis the score reads WBA 1 C.Palace 5.
A welcome 3 points after recent disappointments.

Edited by Willo (06 Dec 2020 11.26pm)

 

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Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 06 Dec 20 11.41pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

The VAR technology indicated that Bamford was offside,albeit exceedingly narrowly.

Regards today's win, of course I am delighted but of course there were phases in the game when we were not too impressive.
In the final analysis the score reads WBA 1 C.Palace 5.
A welcome 3 points after recent disappointments.

Edited by Willo (06 Dec 2020 11.26pm)

The VAR was wrong, as has been highlighted by the incorrect positioning of the lines on Bamford’s & Clyne’s arms by Shockley Park. This has been done to death Willo and we are well aware that it was disallowed for offside but that Bamford has since been shown to be onside. Leave that one alone for the sake of keeping this on the WBA match thread.


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Dec 20 11.51pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

The VAR was wrong, as has been highlighted by the incorrect positioning of the lines on Bamford’s & Clyne’s arms by Shockley Park. This has been done to death Willo and we are well aware that it was disallowed for offside but that Bamford has since been shown to be onside. Leave that one alone for the sake of keeping this on the WBA match thread.

We have a different opinion but in the interests of keeping this thread on-track we will have to agree to disagree and not get embroiled in a debate on the incident.

In terms of today's VAR intervention, in real-time I felt Pereira kicked out at PVA.Having then seen the incident in slow-motion,once the referee went to the monitor I was convinced he would brandish a 'Red' and I said so to my dear wife.

Edited by Willo (07 Dec 2020 12.12am)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 07 Dec 20 12.47am

Originally posted by peterg

We score four goals in 28 minutes - and Graham Misery Souness says afterwards "they were not great goals".
He said that just after watching a replay of Wilf's brilliant shot that put us 2-1 up. Wilf's second and Tekker's second were pretty good goals too.
Typical anti-Palace bias from the Sky moaner in chief etc etc etc

Edited by peterg (06 Dec 2020 5.39pm)

I must admit I did laugh out loud when he said that. It's been said that we don't get the respect we deserve and you won't get a more glaring example of it.

 

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Wilbraham413 Flag 07 Dec 20 2.17am Send a Private Message to Wilbraham413 Add Wilbraham413 as a friend

This reminded me of the Leeds match, where their goal was overruled on a bizarre VAR decision, and the entire match changed after that. Same with the red card today. Before the red, WBA looked like the better side, and more likely to get the 3 points.

I didn't think it was a red card, but maybe according to the letter of the law it is. PVA got burned by Pereiera on WBA's goal, and right after that, it looked like he went after Pereira with an elbow to the chest. Pereira was knocked down, and it looked like PVA was about to fall on top of him, so Pereira held out his legs to shield himself. I guess his leg was "extended", but it didn't look violent to me, or that he was kicking at PVA. Still, we've had sh-t luck earlier, so I'll take good luck here.

Even after the sending off, I thought the pressure was all on us to get the 3 points. Zaha, as usual, did it all himself, and maybe saved Roy for another season.

I was really happy to see Benteke score.

Aside from Zaha as the obvious MotM, I thought MacArthur had a really good game. He would be my second choice for MotM. Eze was quality as well. Clyne is a quietly solid signing.

 


2017 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Middlesboro
2018 Jan. (Sako) Palace 1 - 0 Burnley
2019 May (Batshuayi, Batshuayi, OG, Van Aanholt, Townsend) Palace 5 - 3 Bournemouth
2020 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Newcastle

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taylors lovechild Flag 07 Dec 20 9.26am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

It's hard to say what would have happened had the red card not happened, but having said that, I always felt confident we would win whatever with Wilf in the team. He and Eze were allowed too much space and that was not just because of the red card.

TSN referred to Dermott Gallagher for a referee's view on the red card and he said that due to where Perreira's foot ended up and the fact he extended it it was always going to be red, even if the force was not that strong. Had it been a Palace player I would have been pi$$ed, but the player has to take some responsibility a bit like when Luka was sent off.

One of those rare occasions when you get to experience what it's like to support a big club! Most enjoyable second half since god knows when. Well done Palace

 

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Joe Bloggs Flag Nr Norwich 07 Dec 20 12.26pm Send a Private Message to Joe Bloggs Add Joe Bloggs as a friend

The red card was issued not for how severe or otherwise the foul was but because of the intent. WBA supporters are angry about the card and I am sure we Palace fans would be the same.

My preference would be for VAR to be used goalmouth and offside decisions but all other areas to be the sole decision of the refs.

 

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Jefroc Flag Crete 07 Dec 20 1.03pm Send a Private Message to Jefroc Add Jefroc as a friend

I have now seen a replay. The sending off in my book was tough but he did jerk his knee into PVA which was not clever. It was more a red card that Milo's who clears the ball cleanly but good because the guy places his foot to intercept Milo's follow through Milo gets a red!
Nothing wrong with VAR. It is the guys who make the decisions that are wrong. IMO offside should only be given if there is clear daylight between the players, there should be more tolerance over a physical game and less over shirt pulling and diving.
Regards 11v10. If the 11 don't score the excuse is it is difficult to breakdown a team of 10. If the 11 score 4 the 11 were lucky. Palace were not lucky. They had the teamwork to score 4!
As far as Souness' comments are concerned Palace are Liverpool's bogey team and he has never forgiven our 3 goals to deny them their championship!!!
Lastly, Roy knows the EPL is a marathon not a sprint. He wants to be top 10. Long way to go. Mind you had we beaten Burnley and Newcastle we would be 3rd in the league!!!

 


Always remembering walking from the Holmesdale to the Whitehorse end at half time!

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Dec 20 1.04pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Joe Bloggs

The red card was issued not for how severe or otherwise the foul was but because of the intent. WBA supporters are angry about the card and I am sure we Palace fans would be the same.

My preference would be for VAR to be used goalmouth and offside decisions but all other areas to be the sole decision of the refs.

With respect, "Intent" is not a factor in respect of red and yellow cards.

 

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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 07 Dec 20 1.36pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

With respect, "Intent" is not a factor in respect of red and yellow cards.

With greater respect my friend, yes it is.

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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