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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 28 Feb 17 8.30pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Since there has been a conscious effort by the Swedish authorities not to include details of ethnicity in crime reporting and I am not party to internal memos or meetings of the Swedish government, I can only rely on accounts from policeman who have gone public with their observations.
I know that would be easily excused away by the likes of yourself so I'm not bothering to find them for you. You have seen them already I'm sure.

Yes, you have to wonder why the Swedish government are choosing not to monitor crimes in this way. if the statistics showed that crimes per head of population by immigrants were much lower than non-immigrants, then the government there would be proclaiming it loudly to help vindicate their open door immigration policy. Similar situation in South Africa with them suppressing vital information. Meanwhile the far right in Sweden become more and more significant - I wonder why.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Feb 17 9.00pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Since there has been a conscious effort by the Swedish authorities not to include details of ethnicity in crime reporting and I am not party to internal memos or meetings of the Swedish government, I can only rely on accounts from policeman who have gone public with their observations.
I know that would be easily excused away by the likes of yourself so I'm not bothering to find them for you. You have seen them already I'm sure.

Actually I haven't which is why I've been asking for a link. Then I will make my mind up. Forgive me for not taking your word for it.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Feb 17 9.03pm

Interesting that no one has really commented on my link from a couple of days ago when gay asylum seekers were told to go home to Afghanistan and pretend to be straight.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Feb 17 9.27pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Actually I haven't which is why I've been asking for a link. Then I will make my mind up. Forgive me for not taking your word for it.

So you couldn't find the time or energy to find something like this. It took me all of 10 seconds.

[Link]

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Feb 17 9.58pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So you couldn't find the time or energy to find something like this. It took me all of 10 seconds.

[Link]

Well done. Wasn't hard was it.

Does the police officer have anything to corroborate his story?

Are there not areas that are 'iffy' in every city? I recall some nursery colleagues being given a police escort to carry out home visits for nursery children in Woolwich. Wasn't down to immigration according to one of the officers, just a usual thing in areas of extreme poverty.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 28 Feb 17 10.13pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Interesting that no one has really commented on my link from a couple of days ago when gay asylum seekers were told to go home to Afghanistan and pretend to be straight.

I did.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Feb 17 10.21pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Well done. Wasn't hard was it.

Does the police officer have anything to corroborate his story?

Are there not areas that are 'iffy' in every city? I recall some nursery colleagues being given a police escort to carry out home visits for nursery children in Woolwich. Wasn't down to immigration according to one of the officers, just a usual thing in areas of extreme poverty.

But he is a policeman with experience of what is normal in Sweden so he might know what he is talking about yes? He says that a large proportion of crime is down to immigrants. Evidence enough on it's own? Maybe not.
Coupled with rioting in immigrant areas? A little more convincing perhaps. Will the testimony of 1000 policeman convince you? I doubt it.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Feb 17 10.27pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

But he is a policeman with experience of what is normal in Sweden so he might know what he is talking about yes? He says that a large proportion of crime is down to immigrants. Evidence enough on it's own? Maybe not.
Coupled with rioting in immigrant areas? A little more convincing perhaps. Will the testimony of 1000 policeman convince you? I doubt it.

It might well do.

Edit. [Link]

Pertinent as it shows misreporting of what Swedish police officers have said.

Edited by nickgusset (28 Feb 2017 10.34pm)

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 01 Mar 17 8.26am

Sweden, in many ways, represents the sort of country that the lefties here would like to see. A ‘progressive’ paradise where healthcare and university tuition are free, and workers get the most days of parental leave (480). Tax rates are among the highest anywhere, and inequality (whatever that means) is very low, ranking 142 out of 145 globally.
Yet despite this, Sweden is experiencing the same rise in anti-establishment nationalism as the rest of Europe and the US. Polls suggest support for the Sweden Democrats has risen to 21.5 %, just behind the ruling Social Democrats, with 25.7 % of support.
Other Polls have shown that immigration is the single biggest issue of concern to the electorate there. Meanwhile the Swedish government continues headlong with its deeply unpopular policies while cooking the books in terms of reporting crime statistics, downplaying recent race-riots etc.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 01 Mar 17 8.59am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Ah the country of ABBA is slowly dying.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 01 Mar 17 9.06am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Sweden has Stockholm syndrome ...But they are breaking free of it in increasing numbers....Still, Sweden and its Nordic neighbours are going to be pretty rough for quite a while.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Mar 2017 9.07am)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 01 Mar 17 10.54am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

It might well do.

Edit. [Link]

Pertinent as it shows misreporting of what Swedish police officers have said.

Edited by nickgusset (28 Feb 2017 10.34pm)

Yes, the Guardian is know for it's balanced reporting.

I'm sure the whole thing is made up by right wing conspirators.
But hold on. Even when there is statistical evidence of a disproportion of crime among migrants it is dismissed by the liberal left. I remember a statement from a senior British policeman backed up by statistics that was similarly ridiculed as some kind of prejudice.

It's the age old tactic. Denial denial denial.

 

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