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Knightstar Flag Guildford 19 Oct 20 8.25am Send a Private Message to Knightstar Add Knightstar as a friend

Everyone is blaming Roy's tactics but the players must also except their share of responsibility. Sky
reported yesterday that we are 20th in the league for number of passes and passing accuracy. On that basis is it any wonder that we struggle? Surely Roy doesn't train them to misspass!

 

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EddieMac Flag 19 Oct 20 8.26am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'please go hodgson' by becky

How many Roy OUT threads do we need????

 

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braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 19 Oct 20 8.35am Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Potter gets a tune out of the weed with a squad of a similar quality it pains me to say. You could match the players in ability across both teams.

yet they almost went down & we were safe before lockdown.

be careful what you wish for.

 


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jeeagles Flag 19 Oct 20 8.55am

Originally posted by Knightstar

Everyone is blaming Roy's tactics but the players must also except their share of responsibility. Sky
reported yesterday that we are 20th in the league for number of passes and passing accuracy. On that basis is it any wonder that we struggle? Surely Roy doesn't train them to misspass!

From what former players have said, Roy's training is based on formation, formation, formation. No individual skill, no set players. Our team rarely loses it's shape. We are difficult to break down and will catch teams on the break here and there.

He also, repeatedly set up with three defensive midfielders that were poor passes last season which constantly put us under pressure. This year he's switched to two, which will make the situation worse. Thankfully Reidewald has finally been given a chance but I still think we need a midfield 3.

It's the same old mistakes from Roy time and time again, there's no sign of us building towards anything, there's no indication that Roy has anything in the locker to turn this around.

When Dunk was sent off yesterday, he did at least look fired up for the game, which is more than I can say of our team.

I'd hope Parish is looking around to see who he can bring in.

 

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taylors lovechild Flag 19 Oct 20 9.27am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

It is a mad statistic that in (I think) the last 24 games in which we've taken the lead we haven't lost, winning 19 of them. Based on that and a solid points total for 5 games, in which being honest 7 points is probably more than many of us might have expected given the teams we were playing, you should read that paragraph and think 'Wow, what a good job Roy is doing'. But for me it is covering up a worrying trend.

I said throughout last season that if the points dry up people will quickly turn on Roy due to his negative approach, but now I think most of us are getting to the point where even points aren't enough. In the past people would've said that had we won people wouldn't be complaining, but I think even if we had won many of us still would be complaining this time.

We are living through bleak times and many of us have a multitude of worries. The Palace games should be the one highlight of the week but they are actually making me feel worse these days. I know there are bigger things in the world - my wife has been told her cancer has spread and will have to start more chemo next week - but Roy has to understand right now we need something to believe in beyond just grinding out points like a homeless guy w@nking off a monkey to pay for a sandwich. The hard part is, sacking Roy would be like sticking your grandad in a nursing home (in fact that analogy is probably quite literal in this case).

I'm going to hope Steve has a word in Roy's ear to let him know that fans have been calling Dignitas to ask if they take football teams. Who knows, maybe we'll turn Fulham over and Zaha will smile when he scores. Or maybe I'll go back to paying a homeless man to w@nk off a monkey.

 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 19 Oct 20 9.47am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

It is a mad statistic that in (I think) the last 24 games in which we've taken the lead we haven't lost, winning 19 of them. Based on that and a solid points total for 5 games, in which being honest 7 points is probably more than many of us might have expected given the teams we were playing, you should read that paragraph and think 'Wow, what a good job Roy is doing'. But for me it is covering up a worrying trend.

I said throughout last season that if the points dry up people will quickly turn on Roy due to his negative approach, but now I think most of us are getting to the point where even points aren't enough. In the past people would've said that had we won people wouldn't be complaining, but I think even if we had won many of us still would be complaining this time.

We are living through bleak times and many of us have a multitude of worries. The Palace games should be the one highlight of the week but they are actually making me feel worse these days. I know there are bigger things in the world - my wife has been told her cancer has spread and will have to start more chemo next week - but Roy has to understand right now we need something to believe in beyond just grinding out points like a homeless guy w@nking off a monkey to pay for a sandwich. The hard part is, sacking Roy would be like sticking your grandad in a nursing home (in fact that analogy is probably quite literal in this case).

I'm going to hope Steve has a word in Roy's ear to let him know that fans have been calling Dignitas to ask if they take football teams. Who knows, maybe we'll turn Fulham over and Zaha will smile when he scores. Or maybe I'll go back to paying a homeless man to w@nk off a monkey.

I have remained firmly on the fence with regards to Roy, I would never vehemently defend nor persecute him as I always viewed both arguments as actually quite valid and had yet to take a side.

I have been reluctant to comment so far but reading your post, particularly the bold, I have to admit the pendulum is starting to swing for me and I almost have a feeling of being robbed of watching Palace play the majority of weekends the last few seasons with this being yet another, irrespective of the result. I actually feel less worried about us then I feel perplexed by our performances these days with patience now beginning to strain.

Wishing the best for your wife.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Helmet46 Flag Croydon 19 Oct 20 9.55am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

From what former players have said, Roy's training is based on formation, formation, formation. No individual skill, no set players. Our team rarely loses it's shape. We are difficult to break down and will catch teams on the break here and there.

He also, repeatedly set up with three defensive midfielders that were poor passes last season which constantly put us under pressure. This year he's switched to two, which will make the situation worse. Thankfully Reidewald has finally been given a chance but I still think we need a midfield 3.

It's the same old mistakes from Roy time and time again, there's no sign of us building towards anything, there's no indication that Roy has anything in the locker to turn this around.

When Dunk was sent off yesterday, he did at least look fired up for the game, which is more than I can say of our team.

I'd hope Parish is looking around to see who he can bring in.


I keep saying I’d bring Eddie Howe in and move Roy upstairs and in a guidance role. I really struggle with this as I love Roy to bits but yesterday, for me, was frankly horrific. We were at home, against our closest rivals and we just sat back. As soon as he took our Striker off and made us even more defensive (if that was even possible) the writing was on the wall. Should have been 3 subs in my view. Benteke up top to hold it up, PVA for Mitchell, switching Zaha to the left and swapping Eze with Schlupp to play him through the middle.

But it’s all about opinions.

Edited by Helmet46 (19 Oct 2020 9.55am)

 

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 19 Oct 20 9.58am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

It is a mad statistic that in (I think) the last 24 games in which we've taken the lead we haven't lost, winning 19 of them. Based on that and a solid points total for 5 games, in which being honest 7 points is probably more than many of us might have expected given the teams we were playing, you should read that paragraph and think 'Wow, what a good job Roy is doing'. But for me it is covering up a worrying trend.

I said throughout last season that if the points dry up people will quickly turn on Roy due to his negative approach, but now I think most of us are getting to the point where even points aren't enough. In the past people would've said that had we won people wouldn't be complaining, but I think even if we had won many of us still would be complaining this time.

We are living through bleak times and many of us have a multitude of worries. The Palace games should be the one highlight of the week but they are actually making me feel worse these days. I know there are bigger things in the world - my wife has been told her cancer has spread and will have to start more chemo next week - but Roy has to understand right now we need something to believe in beyond just grinding out points like a homeless guy w@nking off a monkey to pay for a sandwich. The hard part is, sacking Roy would be like sticking your grandad in a nursing home (in fact that analogy is probably quite literal in this case).

I'm going to hope Steve has a word in Roy's ear to let him know that fans have been calling Dignitas to ask if they take football teams. Who knows, maybe we'll turn Fulham over and Zaha will smile when he scores. Or maybe I'll go back to paying a homeless man to w@nk off a monkey.

Good post TL. A decent balance of both sides of the equation. I feel pretty much the same however my patience ran out about a year ago. I hope your wife's treatment goes well, there are always more important things than football.

 

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Skip Flag 19 Oct 20 9.59am Send a Private Message to Skip Add Skip as a friend

There aren't enough in my opinion. This has taken me back to the Peter Taylor days.


Originally posted by EddieMac

This post has been merged from a topic called 'please go hodgson' by becky

How many Roy OUT threads do we need????

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Oct 20 10.09am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I have reached the stage where I would far rather watch chess on live TV than watch us play our turgid brand of football.

Yesterday was totally and utterly dire and whoever we bring in, the football is the same.I suspect nothing will change whilst Hodgson is at the helm.

 

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southnorwoodhill Flag 19 Oct 20 10.10am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Palace were set up to play like that from minute one, and it's all looking a bit suspiciously like the end of last season. We'll be in relegation trouble by Xmas and fans will ask how did it come be, we have some good attacking players, why do we cede possession to teams as bad as us? Hodgson is on a downward spiral and I don't think he has anything in the locker to turn it round.
"Hodgson pleased with Eagles defending" - yeah, when plan A is to put the whole team behind the ball from minute one of course you are going to be defending, possession stats are going to be in the low 30%, and attempts on the opposition goal are going to be counted on one hand. Actually none against Chelsea and one against Brighton, a penalty resulting from an obvious dive. Truly pathetic and the writing is on the wall.

 

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Petereagle Flag Brockley 19 Oct 20 10.15am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Good post TL. A decent balance of both sides of the equation. I feel pretty much the same however my patience ran out about a year ago. I hope your wife's treatment goes well, there are always more important things than football.

The very best of luck for your wife's cancer treatment. That IS the only thing that matters

 

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