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Badger11 Beckenham 02 Nov 19 9.08pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I am very happy about it. The bigger a barrier we place between ourselves and Russia the better. The more countries that are bought into the European family the better our security will be. Their increasing prosperity will bring us new markets. Co-operation and common goals are always better than conflicts and disparate visions. We will maintain higher standards together and negotiate better trade deals from strength. Standing up to the USA under Trump is so much more easily done as part of the EU than not. Don't anyone be fooled by Trump's "offer" to us. He want's us out and then for the EU to implode so the USA can start to milk the European countries, for instance on drug prices. He won't be doing us any favours. He will start on us. Or we get dragged into a war because we have to support one of Russia's neighbours who are being threatened because of their ties to the EU. As for economics I'm all for co-operation and trade links etc. I am not in favour of bailing out other countries at are expense. I very much doubt any of the countries mentioned will be net contributors to the EU budget for quite a while which means someone else has to foot the bill. One more point
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Beckenham 02 Nov 19 9.08pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am very happy about it.

The bigger a barrier we place between ourselves and Russia the better. The more countries that are bought into the European family the better our security will be. Their increasing prosperity will bring us new markets. Co-operation and common goals are always better than conflicts and disparate visions. We will maintain higher standards together and negotiate better trade deals from strength. Standing up to the USA under Trump is so much more easily done as part of the EU than not. Don't anyone be fooled by Trump's "offer" to us. He want's us out and then for the EU to implode so the USA can start to milk the European countries, for instance on drug prices. He won't be doing us any favours. He will start on us.

Or we get dragged into a war because we have to support one of Russia's neighbours who are being threatened because of their ties to the EU.

As for economics I'm all for co-operation and trade links etc. I am not in favour of bailing out other countries at are expense. I very much doubt any of the countries mentioned will be net contributors to the EU budget for quite a while which means someone else has to foot the bill.

One more point

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Invalid user 2019 02 Nov 19 9.41pm
Originally posted by Willo I suspect there is going to be volatility in both the markets and polls as the campaigns unfold. Possibly. A lot can happen in 6 or 7 weeks. On the surface though, unless Farage throws a spanner in the works, it's Boris' to lose.
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02 Nov 19 9.41pm

Originally posted by Willo

I suspect there is going to be volatility in both the markets and polls as the campaigns unfold.

Possibly. A lot can happen in 6 or 7 weeks. On the surface though, unless Farage throws a spanner in the works, it's Boris' to lose.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Nov 19 9.55pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Or we get dragged into a war because we have to support one of Russia's neighbours who are being threatened because of their ties to the EU. Why? The EU has no military responsibilities. That would be a NATO decision. Putin trying to break up the EU has everything to do with him wanting to reclaim control over the previous soviet union dominated countries. Bringing them under the EU umbrella makes that impossible. They will no more want a hot war now than they did 50 years ago. As for economics I'm all for co-operation and trade links etc. I am not in favour of bailing out other countries at are expense. I very much doubt any of the countries mentioned will be net contributors to the EU budget for quite a while which means someone else has to foot the bill. It's not a "bail out". It's an investment. Helping any country to develop and prosper is ultimately in everyone's interests, apart from being a human responsibility. It is also very much in our local interests to have successful democracies on our eastern flank. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 02 Nov 19 9.55pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Or we get dragged into a war because we have to support one of Russia's neighbours who are being threatened because of their ties to the EU.

Why? The EU has no military responsibilities. That would be a NATO decision. Putin trying to break up the EU has everything to do with him wanting to reclaim control over the previous soviet union dominated countries. Bringing them under the EU umbrella makes that impossible. They will no more want a hot war now than they did 50 years ago.

It's not a "bail out". It's an investment. Helping any country to develop and prosper is ultimately in everyone's interests, apart from being a human responsibility. It is also very much in our local interests to have successful democracies on our eastern flank.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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cryrst The garden of England 02 Nov 19 10.08pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I am very happy about it. The bigger a barrier we place between ourselves and Russia the better. The more countries that are bought into the European family the better our security will be. Their increasing prosperity will bring us new markets. Co-operation and common goals are always better than conflicts and disparate visions. We will maintain higher standards together and negotiate better trade deals from strength. Standing up to the USA under Trump is so much more easily done as part of the EU than not. Don't anyone be fooled by Trump's "offer" to us. He want's us out and then for the EU to implode so the USA can start to milk the European countries, for instance on drug prices. He won't be doing us any favours. He will start on us. All guess work from you again. That explanation is so broad its unbelievable. Nothing specific about why remaining is better than leaving. I think change scares you and that is the sole reason you dont want to leave. You must sleep with the light on cuddling your teddy bear humming to yourself so as not to hear the floorboards creaking.
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The garden of England 02 Nov 19 10.08pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am very happy about it.

The bigger a barrier we place between ourselves and Russia the better. The more countries that are bought into the European family the better our security will be. Their increasing prosperity will bring us new markets. Co-operation and common goals are always better than conflicts and disparate visions. We will maintain higher standards together and negotiate better trade deals from strength. Standing up to the USA under Trump is so much more easily done as part of the EU than not. Don't anyone be fooled by Trump's "offer" to us. He want's us out and then for the EU to implode so the USA can start to milk the European countries, for instance on drug prices. He won't be doing us any favours. He will start on us.

All guess work from you again.
That explanation is so broad its unbelievable.
Nothing specific about why remaining is better than leaving.
I think change scares you and that is the sole reason you dont want to leave.
You must sleep with the light on cuddling your teddy bear humming to yourself so as not to hear the floorboards creaking.

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Hrolf The Ganger 02 Nov 19 10.55pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Farage was already making statements prior to the result being declared that the "fight would continue" Farage is a politician. Most people would have accepted the result either way. It is only fanatics and activists like you who haven't.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Farage was already making statements prior to the result being declared that the "fight would continue"

Farage is a politician. Most people would have accepted the result either way.
It is only fanatics and activists like you who haven't.

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Badger11 Beckenham 03 Nov 19 9.39am
So the Tories have now unveiled more money for people on benefits and state pension. This is on top of more money for the NHS and the police amongst other announcements. Yup that Boris is definitely a swivel eyed right wing fanatic. Of course Labour denounce this as a cynical bribe to the voters whilst unveiling their own spending plans which some might say are a "cynical bribe to the voters". Whatever else Boris is if you look at his record apart from Brexit he is a middle of the road one nation Tory. Meanwhile Jezza is staging a bit of a come back as the Tory lead starts to slip this is not surprising as it was so large that was bound to happen. As I have said previously it's not the overall percentage lead that will matter its the key marginals and how much tactical voting has an impact that will win the election. Still all to play for. One more point
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Beckenham 03 Nov 19 9.39am

So the Tories have now unveiled more money for people on benefits and state pension. This is on top of more money for the NHS and the police amongst other announcements.

Yup that Boris is definitely a swivel eyed right wing fanatic.

Of course Labour denounce this as a cynical bribe to the voters whilst unveiling their own spending plans which some might say are a "cynical bribe to the voters".

Whatever else Boris is if you look at his record apart from Brexit he is a middle of the road one nation Tory.

Meanwhile Jezza is staging a bit of a come back as the Tory lead starts to slip this is not surprising as it was so large that was bound to happen.

As I have said previously it's not the overall percentage lead that will matter its the key marginals and how much tactical voting has an impact that will win the election.

Still all to play for.

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Badger11 Beckenham 03 Nov 19 9.46am
Meanwhile in Scotland Wee Jimmy Cranky is ramping up the "braveheart" vote. It's a pity that this will be the dominant issue in Scotland rather than the SNP's appalling record in government. I can fully understand a Scots person who wants independence but doesn't want the SNP. The SNP have been "getting away with it" for years as the electorate up there don't seem too bothered that the SNP couldn't run a corner shop. I like the Scots but part of me wants them to get independence because they will screw it up and then have to come back to the rest of us with a begging bowl. "We want our independence we are tired of being dictated to by a remote and uncaring government in London. So we want to be run by an even more remote and uncaring government in Brussels or is it Berlin I forget." One more point
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Beckenham 03 Nov 19 9.46am

Meanwhile in Scotland Wee Jimmy Cranky is ramping up the "braveheart" vote. It's a pity that this will be the dominant issue in Scotland rather than the SNP's appalling record in government.

I can fully understand a Scots person who wants independence but doesn't want the SNP.

The SNP have been "getting away with it" for years as the electorate up there don't seem too bothered that the SNP couldn't run a corner shop.

I like the Scots but part of me wants them to get independence because they will screw it up and then have to come back to the rest of us with a begging bowl.

"We want our independence we are tired of being dictated to by a remote and uncaring government in London. So we want to be run by an even more remote and uncaring government in Brussels or is it Berlin I forget."

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steeleye20 Croydon 03 Nov 19 10.05am
Originally posted by Badger11 Meanwhile in Scotland Wee Jimmy Cranky is ramping up the "braveheart" vote. It's a pity that this will be the dominant issue in Scotland rather than the SNP's appalling record in government. I can fully understand a Scots person who wants independence but doesn't want the SNP. The SNP have been "getting away with it" for years as the electorate up there don't seem too bothered that the SNP couldn't run a corner shop. I like the Scots but part of me wants them to get independence because they will screw it up and then have to come back to the rest of us with a begging bowl. "We want our independence we are tired of being dictated to by a remote and uncaring government in London. So we want to be run by an even more remote and uncaring government in Brussels or is it Berlin I forget." No it is Edinburgh their seat of government and just like any country in the EU or out they should run themselves. How anybody can possibly want to be run by Westminster is beyond me. Have to let them go, and Northern Ireland getting closer to a united Ireland according to the polls. If we want to commit national suicide we can hardly blame them for wanting out.
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Croydon 03 Nov 19 10.05am

Originally posted by Badger11

Meanwhile in Scotland Wee Jimmy Cranky is ramping up the "braveheart" vote. It's a pity that this will be the dominant issue in Scotland rather than the SNP's appalling record in government.

I can fully understand a Scots person who wants independence but doesn't want the SNP.

The SNP have been "getting away with it" for years as the electorate up there don't seem too bothered that the SNP couldn't run a corner shop.

I like the Scots but part of me wants them to get independence because they will screw it up and then have to come back to the rest of us with a begging bowl.

No it is Edinburgh their seat of government and just like any country in the EU or out they should run themselves.

How anybody can possibly want to be run by Westminster is beyond me.

Have to let them go, and Northern Ireland getting closer to a united Ireland according to the polls.

If we want to commit national suicide we can hardly blame them for wanting out.

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palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 03 Nov 19 11.09am
Originally posted by braunstoneagle where is the like button? It's next to the ignore button.
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where is the like button?

It's next to the ignore button.

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Midlands Eagle 03 Nov 19 11.27am
Originally posted by steeleye20 How anybody can possibly want to be run by Westminster is beyond me. Have to let them go, and Northern Ireland getting closer to a united Ireland according to the polls. I think that we would love to let Northern Ireland leave the UK as it's a bigger financial burden on us than the EU
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Originally posted by steeleye20

How anybody can possibly want to be run by Westminster is beyond me.

Have to let them go, and Northern Ireland getting closer to a united Ireland according to the polls.

I think that we would love to let Northern Ireland leave the UK as it's a bigger financial burden on us than the EU

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DanH SW2 03 Nov 19 11.34am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I think that we would love to let Northern Ireland leave the UK as it's a bigger financial burden on us than the EU Who’s ‘we’ in this sense?
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