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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Feb 19 5.15pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am a "one nation" Tory, which I regard as the grouping which embraces the traditions developed by the likes of Macmillan and Heath.

Strict adherence to law and order in all areas, free market economics, the reward of enterprise, the principal of subsidiarity, a social policy which protects the most vulnerable whilst penalising laziness, support for the NHS and the BBC, support for Nato, support for the Union, the provision of help for developing nations and humanitarian aid in emergencies.

Yep....A Blairite....a neo liberal.....What's the difference?

Heath was an utter creep.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 22 Feb 19 5.28pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Heath was an utter creep.

He was a director of the bank I used to work for

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Feb 19 5.55pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

He was a director of the bank I used to work for


Did you get any impressions?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 22 Feb 19 5.55pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Thanks for helping me prove my point

The one about living in Holland and telling us still in Britain that we should ignore the truth to facilitate the enforcement of a futile and dangerous ideology?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 22 Feb 19 5.56pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Did you get any impressions?

I hear he did a good Mike Yarwood.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Feb 19 6.02pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I hear he did a good Mike Yarwood.

I was once in a lift with Lord David Owen.....The most malignant looking eyebrows ever......I wouldn't be surprised if they crawled off his face at night and roamed the streets like the Triffids.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Feb 2019 6.05pm)

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 22 Feb 19 6.05pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am a "one nation" Tory, which I regard as the grouping which embraces the traditions developed by the likes of Macmillan and Heath.

Strict adherence to law and order in all areas, free market economics, the reward of enterprise, the principal of subsidiarity, a social policy which protects the most vulnerable whilst penalising laziness, support for the NHS and the BBC, support for Nato, support for the Union, the provision of help for developing nations and humanitarian aid in emergencies.

Sounds like a manifesto written on a beer mat by a young William Hague after his first drink.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 22 Feb 19 6.07pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I was once in a lift with Lord David Owen.....The most malignant looking eyebrows ever......I wouldn't be surprised if they crawled off his face at night and roamed the streets like the Triffids.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Feb 2019 6.04pm)

Ha ha. Hopefully they didn't cross pollinate with Dennis Healey's.

 

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ddjdd Flag Chichester 22 Feb 19 6.08pm Send a Private Message to ddjdd Add ddjdd as a friend

Fully agree - have to stop myself replying to anything as it's all so predictable, and from the same set of usernames.


Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's for this reason I have retired from this section of the HOL, but as this comment deserves my support I will make an exception. It's the same small group of posters banging the same old tired drums. They are not, in my opinion, representative of the general sentiment held by the people in the UK as a whole, although I am only too aware that there is a vocal minority who think as they do. Brexit, the election of Trump and the rise of popularism generally has given them the confidence to express themselves more openly.

I hope it is just a temporary phenomenon and they will again retire to the shadows. Of course such voices need to be heard but for them to dominate anywhere makes me feel very nervous for the future direction of civilised, progressive societies everywhere.

As, in my experience, there is no reasoning with such people the only way to handle them is to out vote them, using the long established methods embedded in our democratic system. Which, by the way, does not include referendums or threads on social media platforms.


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 22 Feb 19 6.09pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep....A Blairite....a neo liberal.....What's the difference?

Heath was an utter creep.

Tony Blair was the most sensible Labour leader of my lifetime whose reputation has been very unfairly maligned because of the Iraq war issue.

Being liberal is an entirely positive attribute.

You don't judge people's politics because you personally find them creepy. Heath's manner was odd at times but he had his head screwed on politically.

I thought Thatcher was exceptionally creepy but she also had an admirable side to her character and was of her time. The problem today is that too many in the Tory Party think that her ideas remain relevant and heroine worship her legacy.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Feb 19 6.11pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Tony Blair was the most sensible Labour leader of my lifetime whose reputation has been very unfairly maligned because of the Iraq war issue.

Being liberal is an entirely positive attribute.

You don't judge people's politics because you personally find them creepy. Heath's manner was odd at times but he had his head screwed on politically.

I thought Thatcher was exceptionally creepy but she also had an admirable side to her character and was of her time. The problem today is that too many in the Tory Party think that her ideas remain relevant and heroine worship her legacy.

A neo liberal and a liberal are not the same thing.

I like aspects of both and also detest aspects of both.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Feb 2019 6.12pm)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 22 Feb 19 6.14pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Tony Blair was the most sensible Labour leader of my lifetime whose reputation has been very unfairly maligned because of the Iraq war issue.

Being liberal is an entirely positive attribute.

You don't judge people's politics because you personally find them creepy. Heath's manner was odd at times but he had his head screwed on politically.

I thought Thatcher was exceptionally creepy but she also had an admirable side to her character and was of her time. The problem today is that too many in the Tory Party think that her ideas remain relevant and heroine worship her legacy.

I better cook up some popcorn.

 

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