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Hoof Hearted 25 Mar 17 10.11am

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It seems some people (scumbags) are capable of trying to make money out of any situation....

I note also that there is a legitimate fund already in place for the murdered PC but why just him?

Sure his death was heroic, but no more senseless or tragic as any of the dead victims and/or any of the injured who may need 24/7 help from now on due to their injuries.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Mar 17 10.20am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

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It seems some people (scumbags) are capable of trying to make money out of any situation....

I note also that there is a legitimate fund already in place for the murdered PC but why just him?

Sure his death was heroic, but no more senseless or tragic as any of the dead victims and/or any of the injured who may need 24/7 help from now on due to their injuries.

I'll put this appeal [Link] up again as you missed it first time around

 

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Hoof Hearted 25 Mar 17 10.24am

Someone remind the Union official that I don't click on any of his links due to multiple previous disappointments and a desire not to waste all of my life responding to his tiresome diatribes....

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Mar 17 10.27am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Someone remind the Union official that I don't click on any of his links due to multiple previous disappointments and a desire not to waste all of my life responding to his tiresome diatribes....

You wanted an appeal for all victims. I've provided one.

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 25 Mar 17 10.31pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

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Talking of unions? As if by magic. As a side note isn't 30 a tad to old to be a student (unless she's working a second job)

 


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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 25 Mar 17 10.59pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

The whole attack was over in 82 seconds always worth remembering when people criticise with the benefit of hindsight

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 Mar 17 9.29am

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All culpable?

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 27 Mar 17 10.00am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

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All culpable?

If I never see another frigging hijab it won't be too soon.

 


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.TUX. Flag 27 Mar 17 10.01am

Originally posted by nickgusset

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All culpable?

Why spend the time talking to those in your community to try to solve a problem when you can just stand on a bridge instead.
Well done them.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 27 Mar 17 10.09am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

We have a problem and we have to deal with it.
There is no implication that all Muslims are bad or that one religion is nuttier than another. There is no need for fallacious reasoning reasoning at all.
What we do have to do is protect ALL citizens by all effective means necessary and to hell with political correctness.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Mar 2017 5.59pm)

EFA - We have to protect all citizens and that does include Muslim citizens and their rights. Its nothing to do with political correctness - its all about being a reasonable, democratic country that doesn't just view the rights of citizens as important only when they're not convenient.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 27 Mar 17 10.10am

Originally posted by .TUX.

Why spend the time talking to those in your community to try to solve a problem when you can just stand on a bridge instead.
Well done them.

Probably because if you don't make a show of it, the same people who criticise you for 'standing on a bridge' will condemn you for not 'condemning the attack'.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 27 Mar 17 10.24am

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

Take away skin colour, country of origin and ancestral history just for one moment please....

One thought.. Yes it's terrorism but mental health has to be at the heart of this.. no one normal / same / well balanced does something like that. End of!

Secondly.. still forget the skin colour and ethnicity for ANYONE to be carrying out an act like this we have to ask what is drawing them to the ideology of Islamic state and radicalism.

For what it's worth and it's only my opinion one day, might be next week might be in 10 years time you Mark my words we will have someone English, white, born here who will convert and do something like this. I am sure of it... which is why we need to ask what is drawing these men to stuff like this !

In this case, I think it may well be true. The bloke has a history of violence, and violent desires, long predating his conversion, including two prison sentences for violent crime involving a knife. There isn't much in the way of planning or strategy to his attack, or direct involvement with terrorist groups.

At least one friend, according to The Sun, related he was fixated with the idea of violence and bloodshed to a point that sounded almost fetishist or delusional.

Throughout his life he seems to have been drawn to fringe cultures and violence (bizarrely according to The Sun, rave culture, the national front and football hooliganism), with a history of poor impulse control violent tendencies and self delusions of importance.

Radical convert in prison, around the time that Islamic Terrorism became 'the big thing', and then the embrace of a violent agenda, in keeping with the rest of his life.

I'd probably put him in the category as Brevik / Muir someone who's mental health issues make them a danger to others, who is violent and aligns themselves to violent outlets in order to provide an outlet, and rationality - As times change, they latch onto new excuses for violence, but in terms of politics and the complexity of agendas, they're not really capable of understanding or fitting in (in fact groups tend to reject them, even terrorist groups, because they're a liability).

The plan, was delusional at best. To drive over some people, and storm the houses of parliament, armed with a couple of knives. That's more like something a child would imagine as possible, rather than an adult and I suspect he'd never really planned out what he was going to do or really rationally had any true objective in mind other than to commit violence in the name of 'Islam'.

 


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