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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 07 Jan 17 2.35pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That's not really mass migration is it. That is 1,050,000 people in 70 years. That many have come here in the last 4 years.

What is your point?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Jan 2017 12.04pm)

It certainly was mass migration. Each instance apart from the Chinese was rapid.

I ask again; why do you think those mass migrations were major errors as surely you must? To quote you "I consider mass migration a big mistake"

Forgot about the Irish too around the Great Famine. Another one. Mistake again?

Edited by Kermit8 (07 Jan 2017 2.37pm)

 


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OhthisbloodyPC Flag 07 Jan 17 2.38pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

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May's britain...


Which May?

You mean Brian May from Queen?

If so, I'm with you. Never really liked that bloke.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Jan 17 2.49pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

It certainly was mass migration. Each instance apart from the Chinese was rapid.

I ask again; why do you think those mass migrations were major errors as surely you must? To quote you "I consider mass migration a big mistake"

Forgot about the Irish too around the Great Famine. Another one. Mistake again?

Edited by Kermit8 (07 Jan 2017 2.37pm)

A bout of "I can't understand simple concepts" appears to have broken out on here today. It must be the time of year.
We need a definition of what mass migration means. It has to be a relative amount.

I would assert that no migration in modern times can be compared to the last decade and to the potential migrations in future. We must relate all other migration to this period. Due to rapid global population increase, there appears to be no end to the numbers that can potentially arrive in foreseeable future.

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 07 Jan 17 3.01pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A bout of "I can't understand simple concepts" appears to have broken out on here today. It must be the time of year.
We need a definition of what mass migration means. It has to be a relative amount.

I would assert that no migration in modern times can be compared to the last decade and to the potential migrations in future. We must relate all other migration to this period. Due to rapid global population increase, there appears to be no end to the numbers that can potentially arrive in foreseeable future.

Why won't you answer what is really an easy question pertaining to past mass migrations?

For the third and last time and I'll even make it very simple for you to respond - Do you think those mass migrations were "big mistakes" ?

As you did say "I consider mass migration a big mistake"


'yes' or 'no' will do. I look forward to your response.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Jan 17 3.14pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

Interesting.So you only think that "mass" migration in the last 10 years (predominantly people from Europe) has been a "big mistake" and don't think that about the non European migration to the UK from W Indies and Africa and S Asia (including the vast majority of our muslim population) between 1945-75.That#s certainly the logic of your proposition.

If you're not making it up as you go along to try and justify your prejudices,perhaps you'll therefore now stop banging on about the horrors of muslim and other non European immigration so much?

Firstly. People coming from Eastern Europe might have been the largest group migrating but a very significant amount of migrants come from outside Europe.
I think mass migration is by far the biggest threat to our country and any other. It is largely about economics and resources but there are clearly related issues with religion, culture and crime that are inevitable when migrants arrive. If you deny that then you deny reality.
If you claim that recognising that is demonstrating prejudice then you merely wish to close down debate. The only reasons you would do that is because you know that you have no sensible counter argument or that you have a personal reason for the denial.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Jan 17 3.23pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Why won't you answer what is really an easy question pertaining to past mass migrations?

For the third and last time and I'll even make it very simple for you to respond - Do you think those mass migrations were "big mistakes" ?

As you did say "I consider mass migration a big mistake"


'yes' or 'no' will do. I look forward to your response.

Jesus!

Please try and read carefully.

I'm saying that in relative terms, your examples are not mass migrations. Not relative to the last decade or two and not relative to the population as a whole. Also, those migrations were finite where as the current trend is potentially endless due to the rapid world population increase.

Please try to face reality rather than attempting to make some facile point.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Jan 2017 3.27pm)

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 07 Jan 17 3.49pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Jesus!

Please try and read carefully.

I'm saying that in relative terms, your examples are not mass migrations. Not relative to the last decade or two and not relative to the population as a whole. Also, those migrations were finite where as the current trend is potentially endless due to the rapid world population increase.

Please try to face reality rather than attempting to make some facile point.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Jan 2017 3.27pm)

But at their time they were considered to be mass migrations. Tens or hundreds of thousands in a very short time moving from one country to another and to quite specific, small areas within that host country is exactly that. You are gainsaying that fact because it is in the past and you can't relate it to the now. I get it. But look further and think about it : What took place down the line? They adapted. We adapted. Eventually some, sooner others.

Still want to stick with your "mass migration is a big mistake" stance? Back it up then if 'yes' as England/UK history says otherwise.

You may be right about the current mass migration. Time will tell. You may also be wrong.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Jan 17 3.57pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

But at their time they were considered to be mass migrations. Tens or hundreds of thousands in a very short time moving from one country to another and to quite specific, small areas within that host country is exactly that. You are gainsaying that fact because it is in the past and you can't relate it to the now. I get it. But look further and think about it : What took place down the line? They adapted. We adapted. Eventually some, sooner others.

Still want to stick with your "mass migration is a big mistake" stance? Back it up then if 'yes' as England/UK history says otherwise.

You may be right about the current mass migration. Time will tell. You may also be wrong.

I don't want to "adapt". Why would I?

I promise you there will a big problem adapting to 600,000 migrants per year(300,000 net) and increasing for the foreseeable future.

 

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legaleagle Flag 07 Jan 17 5.06pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Firstly. People coming from Eastern Europe might have been the largest group migrating but a very significant amount of migrants come from outside Europe.
I think mass migration is by far the biggest threat to our country and any other. It is largely about economics and resources but there are clearly related issues with religion, culture and crime that are inevitable when migrants arrive. If you deny that then you deny reality.
If you claim that recognising that is demonstrating prejudice then you merely wish to close down debate. The only reasons you would do that is because you know that you have no sensible counter argument or that you have a personal reason for the denial.

Let's face it.Whatever way you dress it up "intellectually" (and you certainly have a large wardrobe),its simply that you don't much care for people of a different ethnicity to yourself...

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 07 Jan 17 6.27pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Let's face it.Whatever way you dress it up "intellectually" (and you certainly have a large wardrobe),its simply that you don't much care for people of a different ethnicity to yourself...

Why should he care?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Jan 17 6.54pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

Let's face it.Whatever way you dress it up "intellectually" (and you certainly have a large wardrobe),its simply that you don't much care for people of a different ethnicity to yourself...

Interesting how you phrase that.

I have a relative level of care for most human beings. I care most for my family, then my friends and then a huge drop in relative care to almost everyone else, including immigrants. Some peoples habits I don't care much for and then there are a few select individuals that I wouldn't piss on if they were alight.

I would ask why you care so much about immigrants? You don't know 99% of them. Surely you prioritise your loved ones and want to protect them from harm don't you?
Most normal people would.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 07 Jan 17 7.00pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Interesting how you phrase that.

I have a relative level of care for most human beings. I care most for my family, then my friends and then a huge drop in relative care to almost everyone else, including immigrants. Some peoples habits I don't care much for and then there are a few select individuals that I wouldn't piss on if they were alight.

I would ask why you care so much about immigrants? You don't know 99% of them. Surely you prioritise your loved ones and want to protect them from harm don't you?
Most normal people would.

That's why I hope none of them ever meet you.

 

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