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 Stirlingsays  02 Jun 19 5.44pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Of course it is. The EU, taken as a whole is the UK’s largest trading partner. In 2017, UK exports to the EU were £274 billion (44% of all UK exports). UK imports from the EU were £341 billion (53% of all UK imports). U.S. goods and services trade with United Kingdom totaled an estimated 2.3 billion in 2018. Exports from the US were 1.1 billion; imports to the US were 1.2 billion.
I was talking more holistically.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 02 Jun 19 5.49pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I speak only for myself Your naivety is breathtaking. Like everyone else, and certainly more than most, the US looks to its self-interests. You can ask a few countries south of the border. Trump nakedly admits that he is only interested in the welfare of the US. The UK is simply a resource as far as the US is concerned. That attitude also applies to the EU countries. The thing is that their objectives align a little more closely to ours. There's nothing wrong with having self interest – that's the duty of the person in charge of a country. Not sure why you completely assume the UK will sign an agreement that's not in their interest. Your side of the aisle is always putting Britain down. And it's far easier to align objectives to one country than 27. We have lots in common with many individual countries around the world.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 02 Jun 19 5.55pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
There's nothing wrong with having self interest – that's the duty of the person in charge of a country. Not sure why you completely assume the UK will sign an agreement that's not in their interest. Your side of the aisle is always putting Britain down. And it's far easier to align objectives to one country than 27. We have lots in common with many individual countries around the world. Exactly the problem with EU trade deals is that some countries may lose out for the greater good or worse the bigger countries block a better deal because it hurts them. Try importing cheap quality olives from outside the EU and see if the Mediterranean countries will be happy with that.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Jun 19 6.32pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
So according to Wisbech if you are Obama commenting on the Brexit affair you are just 'stating the truth'. Read what I wrote and then try to work out why what Obama said was true because it was stated carefully and diplomatically! Whereas if you are Trump and commenting your are making, 'inflammatory statements' and 'interfering in our politics!' Therein lies the difference. Trump has no understanding of diplomacy and just says whatever enters his head. Trump wasn't just commenting. He wants a Brexit and to support his sycophantic mate Farage so just just let it roll out without any thought as to the consequences or the upset it might cause. 'Trump is interfering. Obama was observing from a US perspective. The first is offensive. The second isn't.'
I think you guys are coming to the same conclusion that I did with this chap. Well at least you didn't disappoint me! I had no expectation that you would understand the point I made and you clearly don't. Maybe some of the "other" guys (ie those without the blinkers on) have already come to the same conclusion about you that I have.
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| dannyboy1978 02 Jun 19 6.39pm |
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Wisbech you said Obama spoke the truth?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Jun 19 6.44pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Do you seriously think people take what you have just written seriously. In one breath trump is a disaster the second breath trump would only do a good deal for America. Edited by dannyboy1978 (02 Jun 2019 1.04pm) Can you really not see why? Really? Trump doesn't do "good deals" for America! He does deals that he thinks are good for America. Big difference. Like raising tariffs on imported goods that he thinks will hurt the exporting country but will actually be paid by the US consumers, cause reciprocal responses and trade wars which disrupt world trade, resulting in economic uncertainty everywhere. Trump is a disaster. He has the economic nous of a 5 year old. Believing that the USA will rush to negotiate a trade deal with us after Brexit that actually benefits us is naivety taken to extremes. Oh I am biased. I am biased against anyone who tells lies, attacks anyone who criticises and uses bullying as a negotiating tactic.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Jun 19 6.48pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Yup. I am more than happy to condemn Trump for interfering in UK politics as did Obama. I don't get why some people love Obama. The special relationship was at it's weakest in my lifetime. He made a point when visiting Europe to go to Berlin and or Paris first. He made it perfectly clear who he thought America's key allies were and we were behind them. Fair enough that is his right why some British people love him I don't get. Trump for all his many faults is at least pro British in foreign policy. People love Obama for many reasons but mainly because he is clearly a decent man who loves his country, and particularly the disadvantaged in it, before himself. Trump is not pro anything that doesn't start with Trump.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 02 Jun 19 6.49pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Can you really not see why? Really? Trump doesn't do "good deals" for America! He does deals that he thinks are good for America. Big difference. Like raising tariffs on imported goods that he thinks will hurt the exporting country but will actually be paid by the US consumers, cause reciprocal responses and trade wars which disrupt world trade, resulting in economic uncertainty everywhere. Trump is a disaster. He has the economic nous of a 5 year old. Believing that the USA will rush to negotiate a trade deal with us after Brexit that actually benefits us is naivety taken to extremes. Oh I am biased. I am biased against anyone who tells lies, attacks anyone who criticises and uses bullying as a negotiating tactic. One of the very best things about Trump is how much he pisses off people like you
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Jun 19 6.51pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
You are actually a bigger idiot than I initially thought. If you really cannot understand why what Obama said, and how and why he did so, was so different to Trump's latest stupidity then I am afraid you ought to look up the meaning of the "pot calling the kettle black".
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Jun 19 6.55pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Thing is, Wisbech can't even see it. I rather think that it's you, along with the other Trump fans here, that are failing to see the difference between the behaviour of the two men. Take some time out and reflect on what both said, when, why and how. Obama was careful. Trump was just Trump.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Jun 19 7.00pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
There was no Tory leadership election when Obama said the UK would be at the “back of the queue” in any trade deal with the US if the country chose to leave the EU. So not a real comparison. Trump says the UK will be front of the queue and that's meant to be a bad thing?! It's a bad thing if it's bs served up for the consumption of the gullible in a restaurant operated by Rupert Murdoch. Doesn't anyone else smell the aroma of blatant interference that I do? Murdoch is a manipulator and always has been.
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| Stirlingsays 02 Jun 19 7.04pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
One of the very best things about Trump is how much he pisses off people like you
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