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CrazyBadger Ware 24 Jan 20 10.02am | |
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Originally posted by EddieMac
Any points we have got this season we have deserved. Just because we dont have 40 shots on target and 80% percent possesion doesnt mean we have been lucky. There is more than 1 way to win a football game and if you score more goals than your opposition you deserve to win. I do agree with that to a point. Although, This year seems more like decisions have gone our way than in previous seasons. In the Past we've been moaning about a refs call, this year we've benefited from them. Where we've nicked a draw or win, in seasons past, these would have been Consolation goals, and wouldn't have garnered as many points. We don't dominate teams - We've played well occasionally, but rarely for a whole match. Our performances are spoke of as 'hard fought' or 'Spirited'. Our defensive displays - as good as they have been this year are often last ditch, backed up by a goalkeeper who is in a great vein of form. Long may this continue, as it is currently working for us(and is Hodgsons doing), although if any of these things go missing, then we'll be in trouble as we do not have the quality to fall back on. Quite Frankly this is unsustainable, and continuing to play the game like this will only end one way.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Jan 20 10.05am | |
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Originally posted by PZ Eagle
Do some of you want Premier League football?? It is a genuine question because the moaning about Roy Hodgson is becoming pathetic. Have you not learnt from other clubs examples such as Stoke. They had a Manager who had kept them in the PL for ten years but their fans started to moan non stop about their style of football so the Chairman panicked and sacked Tony Pullis. Take a look where they are now, just above the trapdoor in the Championship. Not quite as bad was the Arsenal fans hounding Wenger out and they, based purely on league points, are no better than us now. Be careful what you wish for. Regards my own position, I am not heaping ordure on Hodgson whom I believe has performed an admirable job keeping us in the PL with limited financial backing. I like others, justifiably are less than enamoured at our style of play but as I have asserted on more than one occasion, his objective is to preserve the club's PL status and this has been achieved and possibly will be achieved this season as well.I have also asserted that Norwich play an open, expansive brand of football and they are rock bottom. If,as expected by many, we survive, the end justified the means will apply and as supporters lap up the sun on a beach in the summer, the lack of entertainment will be forgiven!
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CrazyBadger Ware 24 Jan 20 10.08am | |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
I don't think that will happen. Hodgson had the best players in England to choose from and by the end they were the worst England side I've ever seen. Negative side to side all behind the ball knock it up to Kane and hope he does something football - sound familiar? If history is repeating itself Hodgson will be gone next season. It's worth remembering that Hodgson racked up on of The best qualifying records in English history on the way to that World Cup. I think we need to build the squad before handing it over to a new manager. The best way to do that - with the least risk - is under hodgsons stewardship.
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southnorwoodhill 24 Jan 20 10.11am | |
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Originally posted by PZ Eagle
Do some of you want Premier League football?? It is a genuine question because the moaning about Roy Hodgson is becoming pathetic. Have you not learnt from other clubs examples such as Stoke. They had a Manager who had kept them in the PL for ten years but their fans started to moan non stop about their style of football so the Chairman panicked and sacked Tony Pullis. Take a look where they are now, just above the trapdoor in the Championship. Not quite as bad was the Arsenal fans hounding Wenger out and they, based purely on league points, are no better than us now. Be careful what you wish for. Looking at the wider picture Hodgson is in his 70s and probably thinking about a well earned retirement. What then? The squad is ageing and needs rejuvenating. Perhaps there is a plan in place for Roy to keep us safe in the PL by whatever footballing means necessary and plans are afoot for his successor and bright prospect youngsters. We can but hope, because the present format is unsustainable.
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southnorwoodhill 24 Jan 20 10.16am | |
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Originally posted by CrazyBadger
It's worth remembering that Hodgson racked up on of The best qualifying records in English history on the way to that World Cup. I think we need to build the squad before handing it over to a new manager. The best way to do that - with the least risk - is under hodgsons stewardship. Ha, yeah
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PatrickA London 24 Jan 20 10.33am | |
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For me it boils down to whether the only way for us to stay in the hallowed Premier League is by being ultra defensive, rarely committing players forward and hoping the opposition has an off day?
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adelaar Edgware 24 Jan 20 10.47am | |
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Returning to the match on Tuesday, obviously it was one we earmarked as winnable.
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southnorwoodhill 24 Jan 20 10.48am | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
For me it boils down to whether the only way for us to stay in the hallowed Premier League is by being ultra defensive, rarely committing players forward and hoping the opposition has an off day? We play the way we do because Hodgson is the manager and these are his tactics, injuries or not. I don't see the teams in and around us employing such negative tactics, and they are doing fine with similar strength squads as ours.
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A89M Streatham 24 Jan 20 10.50am | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
For me it boils down to whether the only way for us to stay in the hallowed Premier League is by being ultra defensive, rarely committing players forward and hoping the opposition has an off day? It is when we have 11 first team players out. Our squad is capable of more and it was proving that before the injuries started to mount up. You can get lucky in some games but a consistent tally of points over half a season is not luck, it’s hard work on the training field and reaping the rewards on game day. It just doesn’t suit your narrative. You complain about Hodgsons negative, defensive tactics but then go back to the 3-3 game as a benchmark of how we should play. The Palace team was managed by Pulis, one of the most defensive managers in the league, who lumped the ball forward at every opportunity. Were we more exciting then than we are now? 30 points at mid season, I’d say not. In fact we at least try to play football now. Houghton was manager of Brighton, he was labelled as a boring manager with defensive tactics. Brighton are in the exact same position as they were last season and they play ‘exciting, attractive’ football or maybe we should be more like Norwich, free flowing but leaking goals for fun at the bottom of the league haha.
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PatrickA London 24 Jan 20 11.15am | |
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I’m not using the 3-3 v Liverpool as a benchmark for how we should play.
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jeeagles 24 Jan 20 12.43pm | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
I’m not using the 3-3 v Liverpool as a benchmark for how we should play. This is exactly the reason why I keep saying Hodgson is an OK manager but not a miracle worker. Since BFS he's lost Cabaye, and gained a load of average players to bolster the squad. Arguably, he kept us up in his first season with our best squad ever. We've not replaced Cabaye but we've had Reideweld, Mayer, and Camarasa, who he's not give a chance too.
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PatrickA London 24 Jan 20 2.13pm | |
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Having done a fairly rough and ready and not particularly scientific analysis of the forums on the subject of Hodgson I have to conclude that I’m in a significant minority in my views.
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