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How do you explain the rise in fascism then. Oh I forgot, it's the fault of those standing up against it.

There's certainly a rise in people accusing others of fascism, but it's only a step up from Rik in the Young Ones - basically anyone who doesn't agree with his world view is a fascist

Some rise. For decades they were reducing in the US and it's only recent that anyone even spoke about them.

They are the far right and you just apply the fascist label to them. How many of them are are actual fascists in the political sense? I should think is very few.

The rise of the far right or alt right and the alt-lite is in response to identity politics. They are simply its reverse mirror image. Racial identitarian movements give rise to opposition identitarian. movements. Pretty simple really.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

That's actually how Hitler's movement grew.....without the fights with communists in the bars he'd have never had the platform to spread.

The German Police actually kept a tally of how many were dying on each side each week.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

White Supremacists, tend towards being a similar problem to Nazism and Neo-Nazism, as by it very nature its targeting national citizens and demonising them as the cause of all problems: Similar to fascism / Nazis as the Zionist conspiracy. Its a suspiciously similar posture.

Separatists, well, I don't see a problem there, if they're the ones who 'f**k off and form their own country'. It should be encouraged - if the US can find some land somewhere, where they can form their own state or substate, and build their white only society, then fine. The rest of us, can get along without them, trade with them etc and everyone is happy.

So why don't they. Shouldn't be too hard. Because the truth is, that what they actually want is for everyone else to fit into their agenda, for their benefit.

Then you start to look at what they believe in, and you start to see its essentially a pseudo-fascist rhetoric (much the like BNP) that bares a remarkably close relationship to the principles of fascism laid out by Mussolini et al.

Also why are white separatists so worried about Confederate statues: those men were fighting to keep black people as a burden on the white man etc. My suspicion, and general experience of being around the far left, is that they're really 'same thing, slightly different more acceptable name' as a means of getting people involved.

Most of them don't stand in elections either - which should be a concern. Parties that don't pursue democratic mandates, are not interested in democracy.

Race realists - they're a million miles away from that. The reality is for most people, race isn't even an issue.

But I'd also say, that they have the right to free speech, if they're non-violent, political entities, if they stand in elections and pursue a democratic mandate as their means of obtaining change. I have no problem with even affirmed, self confessed Neo-Nazis and Fascist parties, if they're standing in democratic elections.

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