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silvertop Flag Portishead 13 Dec 20 9.45pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by kevlee

Immigration policy has been spelt out. It will be based on education and skills. Therefore higher levels of educated families from Asia and far east and ex commonwealth (like Hong Kong) no instant access from EU, educated or not.
Jobs now done by EU workers with free access (care workers, coffee shops,hotels, nurses in NHS, farm labourers etc) all available for UK citizens, should they wish to apply for them. The only problem will be if they don't want to do those jobs. Begs the question whether those unemployed should be forced to do them as there shouldn't be any excuse for anyone not in work.

Employers will be aghast at being compelled to take on labour selected by the drate6 and not selected through the normal recruitment route.

This is communism.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Dec 20 8.49am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Have we really left yet?

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Dec 20 9.10am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Papers are saying that the EU may be caving in. Being cynical I read that as Boris is throwing in the towel, I hope not.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 14 Dec 20 6.01pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Brexit is Margaret Thatcher's true legacy.

'I need a scape-goat'.

Ordering her ministers to blame Brussels for her disastrous economic failures.

'Nigel (Lawson) has messed it all up, now he must fix it'.

And what a target Brussels has been.

Totally unprepared to be portrayed as bureaucratic and anti-democratic, they even thought because the UK was a member, we were friends.

Now, it is an impossibility for the British to do anything but blame the EU for all their self-inflicted disasters.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Dec 20 6.17pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Brexit is Margaret Thatcher's true legacy.

'I need a scape-goat'.

Ordering her ministers to blame Brussels for her disastrous economic failures.

'Nigel (Lawson) has messed it all up, now he must fix it'.

And what a target Brussels has been.

Totally unprepared to be portrayed as bureaucratic and anti-democratic, they even thought because the UK was a member, we were friends.

Now, it is an impossibility for the British to do anything but blame the EU for all their self-inflicted disasters.

I partially agree with you. From Jan 1 the government has no one to blame so politicians in this country will need to start taking responsibility for things like immigration amongst many other things.

If they don';t deal with the issues they will be kicked out at the next election and quite rightly.

Taking control means just that the voters saying you've had 5 years and you're not good enough and we don't accept your excuses.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Dec 20 9.10am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Brexit is Margaret Thatcher's true legacy.

'I need a scape-goat'.

Ordering her ministers to blame Brussels for her disastrous economic failures.

'Nigel (Lawson) has messed it all up, now he must fix it'.

And what a target Brussels has been.

Totally unprepared to be portrayed as bureaucratic and anti-democratic, they even thought because the UK was a member, we were friends.

Now, it is an impossibility for the British to do anything but blame the EU for all their self-inflicted disasters.


The Remainers on here really don't know how sad they sound.
Britain has defied the global agenda and will prove that a move toward a globalised world is not an evolution but a choice. There is no natural evolution in man made decisions since the term describes something that is a random process.
Ask dogs if they think that man made 'evolution' worked well for them. They used to be proud wolves and now many of them are rat sized ugly lap warmers.
Something similar would happen to Britain if they slowly surrendered control of power to Brussels.

Sure we will have no one to blame for our mistakes and that is just how I like it. We will become better by learning from them like everyone does.
The biggest mistake we made so far was to join the common market and then open the flood gates of immigration.

 

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The Dolphin Flag 16 Dec 20 6.56pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I am with you on this one Hrolf!
The EU is a busted flush with Germany once again trying to rule Europe at the expense of every member State.
We will be fine on our own long term and we can watch as the EU crumbles leaving decimated Countries in the ashes.
Oh - and Germany will be fine - that was always plan B!

Edited by The Dolphin (16 Dec 2020 6.57pm)

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Dec 20 11.30pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


The Remainers on here really don't know how sad they sound.
Britain has defied the global agenda and will prove that a move toward a globalised world is not an evolution but a choice. There is no natural evolution in man made decisions since the term describes something that is a random process.
Ask dogs if they think that man made 'evolution' worked well for them. They used to be proud wolves and now many of them are rat sized ugly lap warmers.
Something similar would happen to Britain if they slowly surrendered control of power to Brussels.

Sure we will have no one to blame for our mistakes and that is just how I like it. We will become better by learning from them like everyone does.
The biggest mistake we made so far was to join the common market and then open the flood gates of immigration.

If we could build a great big wall all around the UK and never let anyone in, or out, ever again, and become totally self-sufficient in every aspect of life, feeding ourselves and manufacturing all we needed, then your plan might work. We would of course have to commit huge sums to our defence too.

Life would be very hard and really boring. A bit like North Korea without the fun.

There is though a basic problem. The people wouldn't accept it for a moment. The rest of the world exists. We are part of it and if they now think globally we have no choice than to do so too. They are both our customers and our suppliers. Today's world is interdependent. Mess with it and it's you that gets hurt.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 17 Dec 20 11.57pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If we could build a great big wall all around the UK and never let anyone in, or out, ever again, and become totally self-sufficient in every aspect of life, feeding ourselves and manufacturing all we needed, then your plan might work. We would of course have to commit huge sums to our defence too.

Life would be very hard and really boring. A bit like North Korea without the fun.

There is though a basic problem. The people wouldn't accept it for a moment. The rest of the world exists. We are part of it and if they now think globally we have no choice than to do so too. They are both our customers and our suppliers. Today's world is interdependent. Mess with it and it's you that gets hurt.

Sounds like a tantrum describing bitter rubbish.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 18 Dec 20 1.13am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

It's been confirmed that Big Ben will bong on the 31st of December as we transition from the EU.

 


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becky Flag over the moon 18 Dec 20 7.23am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's been confirmed that Big Ben will bong on the 31st of December as we transition from the EU.

I just had this awful vision of Tekkers, in a frock, smoking dope

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Dec 20 8.15am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If we could build a great big wall all around the UK and never let anyone in, or out, ever again, and become totally self-sufficient in every aspect of life, feeding ourselves and manufacturing all we needed, then your plan might work. We would of course have to commit huge sums to our defence too.

Life would be very hard and really boring. A bit like North Korea without the fun.

There is though a basic problem. The people wouldn't accept it for a moment. The rest of the world exists. We are part of it and if they now think globally we have no choice than to do so too. They are both our customers and our suppliers. Today's world is interdependent. Mess with it and it's you that gets hurt.

Mistake 101 by the Remainers.

Brexit is about expanding our horizons beyond the EU not pulling up the drawbridge. Yes we want a sensible immigration policy but that should be in the control of the elected government. When Labour next win I have no doubt that they will adjust the policy as is their right.

As for self sufficiency what sensible person would not be in favour of it. Do we really want to rely on Russia and the Middle east for our energy? As for food I am fine with importing it especially the exotics but would prefer the basics to be home grown we were 6 weeks from starvation during WW2.

Brexit should be an outward looking UK in control of its own affairs and trading with other nations. In this century the growth markets will not be US and Europe but the rest of the world we have a great opportunity to exploit that.

 


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