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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 12 Dec 20 12.47pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

EU exports are only 16% to the UK.

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Dec 20 1.05pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

EU exports are only 16% to the UK.

We are France's biggest agricultural export I doubt the French farmers are loving Macron sticking it to us. As for their fishermen something is better than nothing which is what they are facing now.

I maybe wrong about this next comment so I'm sure our resident Irish expert will correct me if I am wrong but the Irish politicians seem to have dialled back the anti British stuff in the last few weeks.

I think a no deal will hurt them so they seem quite keen for a compromise.

I would happily do a deal with the Irish and give their agricultural produce favourable terms although i assume that the EU would not allow that.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Dec 20 2.26pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

We are France's biggest agricultural export I doubt the French farmers are loving Macron sticking it to us. As for their fishermen something is better than nothing which is what they are facing now.

I maybe wrong about this next comment so I'm sure our resident Irish expert will correct me if I am wrong but the Irish politicians seem to have dialled back the anti British stuff in the last few weeks.

I think a no deal will hurt them so they seem quite keen for a compromise.

I would happily do a deal with the Irish and give their agricultural produce favourable terms although i assume that the EU would not allow that.

There seem to be no preparations for a No deal here, so maybe we know something. Maybe the government incompetent or in thrall to the EU so much that they just have to put up and shut up. I think you're right about the rhetoric, however, general nationalistic programmes on the up at the moment. An emotional famine documentary followed by loads of others as the centenary of the state approaches.
Amazon.co.uk are acting funny, and already adding on something for orders to Ireland which is a pain. It's not like I'm going to buy from the US site instead.

 


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becky Flag over the moon 12 Dec 20 2.54pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

We are France's biggest agricultural export I doubt the French farmers are loving Macron sticking it to us. As for their fishermen something is better than nothing which is what they are facing now.

I maybe wrong about this next comment so I'm sure our resident Irish expert will correct me if I am wrong but the Irish politicians seem to have dialled back the anti British stuff in the last few weeks.

I think a no deal will hurt them so they seem quite keen for a compromise.

I would happily do a deal with the Irish and give their agricultural produce favourable terms although i assume that the EU would not allow that.

As far as I am aware from what I have read, Ireland exports most of it's goods to the EU via what is known as the 'short route' - Ireland to UK - by road to the UK east coast ports and shipped across to the EU.

If there is a no-deal exit, all those goods will have to have the UK import tariff paid on them, making it nonviable or they have to go the longer shipping route round England to Europe. For perishable goods this is a real no no as it adds so much time to the delivery.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 12 Dec 20 3.07pm

Glad to see the EU have rejected boris"s offer of meeting them seperately, he can"t pull that old trick with this lot, they are to cute, united we stand, etc etc

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 12 Dec 20 3.14pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

'Brexit stockpiling causing 10-mile tailbacks in Calais, severe delays as businesses try to get goods into Britain before a potential no-deal Brexit on 1 January'.

And this is before it has even started.

A portent, an appetiser, of our great trading future.

And of course brexiteers telling us it is a 'teething problem' or the tories 'not our problem'.

 

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 12 Dec 20 3.24pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Glad to see the EU have rejected boris"s offer of meeting them seperately, he can"t pull that old trick with this lot, they are to cute, united we stand, etc etc

Why are you glad to see this? You sound as if you want the country to fail. Are politics really that important to you.

 

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chris123 Flag hove actually 12 Dec 20 3.29pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by becky

As far as I am aware from what I have read, Ireland exports most of it's goods to the EU via what is known as the 'short route' - Ireland to UK - by road to the UK east coast ports and shipped across to the EU.

If there is a no-deal exit, all those goods will have to have the UK import tariff paid on them, making it nonviable or they have to go the longer shipping route round England to Europe. For perishable goods this is a real no no as it adds so much time to the delivery.

What about the common transit convention?

 

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chris123 Flag hove actually 12 Dec 20 3.29pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by becky

As far as I am aware from what I have read, Ireland exports most of it's goods to the EU via what is known as the 'short route' - Ireland to UK - by road to the UK east coast ports and shipped across to the EU.

If there is a no-deal exit, all those goods will have to have the UK import tariff paid on them, making it nonviable or they have to go the longer shipping route round England to Europe. For perishable goods this is a real no no as it adds so much time to the delivery.

What about the common transit convention?

 

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chris123 Flag hove actually 12 Dec 20 3.30pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 12 Dec 20 3.31pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

EU exports are only 16% to the UK.

And that gap can be filled from 140 odd other countries who will grab our business and requests.
Watch the uk become a through port to the world. Setting a tax rate to suit each individual economy.
Imagine the riches we get from being the middle man. Much like the eu has been for 40 odd years.
They are bricking it as no matter how you want to to slant it GB is and will always be a respected player on the world stage.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Dec 20 3.32pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Brexit stockpiling causing 10-mile tailbacks in Calais, severe delays as businesses try to get goods into Britain before a potential no-deal Brexit on 1 January'.

And this is before it has even started.

A portent, an appetiser, of our great trading future.

And of course brexiteers telling us it is a 'teething problem' or the tories 'not our problem'.

You are correct in that the government and whoever is responsible for the ports have not planned adequately. The tailbacks have nothing to do with EU dirty tricks and all about lack of investment in infrastructure.

That said they will get it right although it should not have happened in the first place.

This is not a reason to reverse the Brexit decision but maybe a reason to kick Johnson out unless he gets his act together.

Edited by Badger11 (12 Dec 2020 3.33pm)

 


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