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Helmet46 Flag Croydon 31 Oct 20 7.26am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

he referees according to who you play for!Loves the big clubs but is an Anti Palace referee, always has been, anti Wilf and has turned other referees against him too. Dont understand why Parish and co dont complain loudly to the FA about this cheating referee!!
He is the new Clattenburg.

Edited by the silurian (31 Oct 2020 6.14am)

I agree, quickly becoming the new Clattenburg. Could be a decent ref but unfortunately is more interested in his own profile and carrying his own team/player prejudices into games, in my opinion.
I’ll never forget the fool Clattenburg with Ferguson before his disgraceful Cup Final performance and I’m sure we’ll shortly see this other clown behaving in the same way.

 

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A89M Flag Streatham 31 Oct 20 7.26am Send a Private Message to A89M Add A89M as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

yes...with the money we spend & the squad we have my only aspiration is to stay up...i like to think im a fairly realistic level-headed fan and i know our place and where we should be, and that is probably 10th - 15th position.

we spend no money, we have an old squad, we as a fan base hold players like jordan bloody ayew in high regard ffs.

if we went out & acquired players like wolves or everton i would be expecting top half finishes but we dont spend that amount of money or have superagents throwing us their best youngsters.

it wind me up that our adult fanbase dont see this clearly and act like spoilt flipping children , you wouldnt walk in a shop and demand a ralph lauren t-shirt with a lonsdale budget to why apply that same logic to your football club?

Very much with you on this. I saw your posts during the game and was glad to see such levelheadedness amongst chaos. Wolves are a top side who play very good football, mostly because they’ve acquired talent from the Portuguese leagues due to their super agent, their rb was bought from Barca for god sake. We competed but unfortunately did not get the rub of the green with the penalties and offsides. I didn’t expect much from this game and it surprises me that a lot on here did.

 

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Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 31 Oct 20 7.33am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

The red was a red. Players have a duty of care when tackling. The very fact Luka made the contact he made was a failure in that duty of care. He piled in for a ball he was always second favourite to make and risked serious injury.

On the game...I have *almost* begun to enjoy us being behind in matches as it means we try to attack and keep the ball. How sad is that?

Our rusty full backs made us consistently vulnerable. With VAR, Clyne would have got the first one ruled out if he'd gone to ground, and was in no-man's land for the second. PvA struggled hugely on the defensive side of his game and both crosses came down his flank.

Going forward we lacked two things when trying to claw it back; a striker with clever movement (a young Murray) and a midfielder who could slip a pass to him.

Jairo was uncharacteristically sloppy.

 


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Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 31 Oct 20 7.36am Send a Private Message to Goal Machine Add Goal Machine as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

No. Wrong. If Luca was a millisecond later in his tackle then the Wolves player would have taken the ball and then Luca’s ankle in exactly the same fashion. As it happens Luca got the ball first and as he followed through he was unfortunate to catch the Wolves players ankle who arrived LATE to the tackle. This is where slowing it down does no favours to the tackler. It was a yellow at worst and in the old days not even a foul.

The game has gone soft.

This is exactly how I see it. Wasn’t even a foul. Similar to the Sakho red card against Bournemouth last season.

Roy’s post match comments agree, and he is the straightest talking manager in the league.

The rule is a total nonsense, I cannot understand how a red card can be given if he 100% gets the ball first. Should he pull out of the tackle because he has momentum?

 

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PatrickA Flag London 31 Oct 20 7.40am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

It wasn’t a terrible performance but our tactics didn’t work in the early part of the game when they kept on getting down the sides and scored two goals.
Roy is often more concerned with keeping compact in the central areas and is content for the opposition to have players in wide areas where they present less immediate danger.
Last night this didn’t work early on.
Moving forward I would like Eze to have more starts as he’s clever on the ball and will offer something different in the attacking areas which would create more goal scoring opportunities.
Luka being suspended could be a blessing as he has not justified a starting place for some time.
Mcarthur or Mcarthy would be better in that role until Luka finds some form.
The tactics employed do not suit Batshuayi’s strengths.
He likes to play on the shoulder of defenders and thrives on quick sharp spaces in the penalty area for him to finish.
We rarely provide this type of service, but Eze, Jaïro and Wilf would be capable if freed to do so.
We have players coming back and can improve.

 

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Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 31 Oct 20 8.12am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Agree the sending off isn't the worst news ever. Of the players he's likely to choose from, I'd go McCarthy alongside Jairo. Although Jairo wasn't fabulous yesterday.

 


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RCostello2 Flag 31 Oct 20 8.17am Send a Private Message to RCostello2 Add RCostello2 as a friend

how was PVA?

 

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EddieMac Flag 31 Oct 20 8.19am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Agree the sending off isn't the worst news ever. Of the players he's likely to choose from, I'd go McCarthy alongside Jairo. Although Jairo wasn't fabulous yesterday.

I agree with this. The game was dead and buried and at least the red card forces Roy to make a change. Luka and Riedewald was a disaster waiting to happen in midfield. We got completely over run. Riedewald and McCarthy are the 2 I would like to see tried.

 

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Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 31 Oct 20 8.33am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Originally posted by RCostello2

how was PVA?

Rusty defensively with poor positioning. Attacking play was there with a bit of dynamism.

 


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The Dolphin Flag 31 Oct 20 8.34am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

We didn't deserve much from the game - the first half performance saw to that.
Another offside goal - grrrr - we never learn.
Wilf's was a penalty in my opinion.
Luka red - hmmmm - he took the ball but this foot carried on through - a yellow for me - no intent at all.
Our negativity will always cost us.
Another Manager would make better use of what we have going forward and another Manager would want a creative midfielder not a bunch of defensive ones.
Roy to go please.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 31 Oct 20 9.01am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

We didn't deserve much from the game - the first half performance saw to that.
Another offside goal - grrrr - we never learn.
Wilf's was a penalty in my opinion.
Luka red - hmmmm - he took the ball but this foot carried on through - a yellow for me - no intent at all.
Our negativity will always cost us.
Another Manager would make better use of what we have going forward and another Manager would want a creative midfielder not a bunch of defensive ones.
Roy to go please.

"Intent" does not enter the equation in such incidents.

 

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Pete53 Flag Hassocks 31 Oct 20 9.02am Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

Originally posted by Goal Machine

This is exactly how I see it. Wasn’t even a foul. Similar to the Sakho red card against Bournemouth last season.

Roy’s post match comments agree, and he is the straightest talking manager in the league.

The rule is a total nonsense, I cannot understand how a red card can be given if he 100% gets the ball first. Should he pull out of the tackle because he has momentum?

Me too. Watching it was clear Luka was first on to the ball, and it was only the ball that he was targeting. He inevitably followed through simply because of momentum. The Wolves player was late into the tackle and got clattered but there was no reckless or dangerous play from Luka.

 

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