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chateauferret Flag 16 Jan 18 6.37pm

Originally posted by jayjaychil

Haha, I'm not saying my opinion is worth more than yours but you had a dig at me. My response about Ayr was banter. Put your dummy back in fella.

Look, Ive said it. the pass was f*** all special. everything else has been said on my feelings towards the player.

This is not a witch hunt. Its an opinion and I'm entitled to one.

As for the village idiot and the reference to the Hennessey thread. are you saying its a disgrace I have an opinion??


Well funnily enough so am I. I never said you weren't entitled to an opinion. I just hoped that opinions would be based on a positive and encouraging support of our players instead of a constant determination to find fault, belittle, blame, undermine and downright demean them. I don't see any of you lot pulling on a Palace shirt and going up in front of TV audiences to fight and compete for ninety minutes, nor do I see any of you convincing Hodgson that you're good enough, and remember that what you're watching on TV is easy enough to pull to pieces on watching the replay for the tenth time. It's about respect.

It wasn't banter, it was ill-informed prejudice and your ignorance is exposed further by your inability to tell the difference between places fifty miles apart.

Oh, and the subject of my final sentence was third person plural.

 


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youngpalacefan111 Flag 16 Jan 18 6.40pm Send a Private Message to youngpalacefan111 Add youngpalacefan111 as a friend

Originally posted by 60 yrs a palace fan

How you can compare a keeper to a striker is strange.

Unfortunately you and jay jay have a hate campaign against Benteke.

His goal ratio in the premier league is .39. Goals a game.

If you want statistics as you keep on going on about them look up his stats.

Played 34 games at villa 2012/13 19 goals 26 games. 10 goals 13/14. 29 games. 13 goals 14/15

Liverpool 29 games 13 goals 15/16

Palace 36 games 15 goals.16/17

17 games 1 goal.

The stats show that he is not the striker you expect him to be.

Many strikers go through a lean spell and it’s frustrating for the fans but it’s a fact it happens.
Get over it

Only just seen this what a load is s***e, I've already stated many times the problem I have with benteke, and no I don't hate him I expect certain things from our most expensive signing. Don't put words in people's mouths, and I've already put up stats of him this season which don't make for good reading. Your happy with his performances well done good job I'm not and I'm voicing them on a football forum get over it.

Edited by youngpalacefan111 (16 Jan 2018 6.41pm)

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Jan 18 6.42pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by jayjaychil

You make some good points.

Of course I don't want him chasing every lost cause and being piggy in the middle when the centre backs are back and forth. But there is a wrong and a right time to press. This is what I mean by his football brain. At the right time he doesn't go.

My biggest concern with his work rate however is his desire to beat that defender to the near post etc. He just doesn't seem to get himself anywhere near those full stop. His positional play is bad. How often to you see him lurking about on the edge of the box when he should be getting across the defender in the 6 yard box.

He was called a statue when he was at Liverpool and that was with better service than we give him on the whole.

A busted flush in my opinion


Maybe you have shot down your arguement with this statement...with better service would he have scored more? Did you and youngpalace 111 have time to analyse Luca's goal at Southampton?

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Jan 18 6.43pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Maybe you have shot down your arguement with this statement...with better service would he have scored more? Did you and youngpalace 111 have time to analyse Luca's goal at Southampton?

Sorry youngpalacefan111

 

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chateauferret Flag 16 Jan 18 6.55pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Maybe you have shot down your arguement with this statement...with better service would he have scored more? Did you and youngpalace 111 have time to analyse Luca's goal at Southampton?

Well Tekers scored 15 last season so there must be a decent striker in there somewhere. Surely Hodgson can dig him back out again? Look how some of our other players have improved.

Other aspects of Tekers' game I think have actually improved - winning the defensive header, collecting the long ball and holding it up, playing in other attacking players like Sako, McArthur and Wilf. He used to go AWOL at the near post when defending corners quite a lot. Probably he needs to stop worrying about goal count and just focus on putting in a good team shift, a goal is a goal no matter who scores it.

 


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jayjaychil Flag london 16 Jan 18 7.17pm Send a Private Message to jayjaychil Add jayjaychil as a friend

It was a sense of humour!! If I say it was banter it was banter. Don't tell me what I meant or why I said it. Prejudice, please.

Also I watch live. I suggest your ignorance to Benteke stems from the fact YOU watch on tv. You can't see how s*** his movement is because he's never in the picture. ie where the balls goes he's miles away.

You lost me on the third person plural thing. I bow down to your English GCSE

Originally posted by chateauferret

Well funnily enough so am I. I never said you weren't entitled to an opinion. I just hoped that opinions would be based on a positive and encouraging support of our players instead of a constant determination to find fault, belittle, blame, undermine and downright demean them. I don't see any of you lot pulling on a Palace shirt and going up in front of TV audiences to fight and compete for ninety minutes, nor do I see any of you convincing Hodgson that you're good enough, and remember that what you're watching on TV is easy enough to pull to pieces on watching the replay for the tenth time. It's about respect.

It wasn't banter, it was ill-informed prejudice and your ignorance is exposed further by your inability to tell the difference between places fifty miles apart.

Oh, and the subject of my final sentence was third person plural.


 

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60 yrs a palace fan Flag 16 Jan 18 7.30pm Send a Private Message to 60 yrs a palace fan Add 60 yrs a palace fan as a friend

Originally posted by youngpalacefan111

Only just seen this what a load is s***e, I've already stated many times the problem I have with benteke, and no I don't hate him I expect certain things from our most expensive signing. Don't put words in people's mouths, and I've already put up stats of him this season which don't make for good reading. Your happy with his performances well done good job I'm not and I'm voicing them on a football forum get over it.

Edited by youngpalacefan111 (16 Jan 2018 6.41pm)

Yes you do keep spouting the same old arguments. Not many people seem to agree with you tho . Do they

Edited by 60 yrs a palace fan (16 Jan 2018 7.31pm)

 

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youngpalacefan111 Flag 16 Jan 18 7.33pm Send a Private Message to youngpalacefan111 Add youngpalacefan111 as a friend

Originally posted by 60 yrs a palace fan

Yes you do keep spouting the same old arguments. Not many people seem to agree with you tho . Do they

Edited by 60 yrs a palace fan (16 Jan 2018 7.31pm)

Ashame you have to make things up to build an argument, I think that lowers the tone of the discussion more than the odd swear word.

 

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kenners46 Flag sydenham village 16 Jan 18 8.02pm Send a Private Message to kenners46 Add kenners46 as a friend

Just a query, if Benteke had been signed from Rochdale for £400,000 would people still be praising his work rate and goal ratio or saying he's not fit to wear the shirt...please dont harp on about last season that has gone, we are talking about this season, one goal in eighteen games

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Jan 18 8.07pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Because we have had a decent run in the last 12 games, there hasn't been that much focus on Benteke,his performances and lack of goals.Had we not had such a resurgence, Benteke would have come in for severe criticism.

 

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chateauferret Flag 16 Jan 18 8.48pm

Originally posted by jayjaychil

It was a sense of humour!! If I say it was banter it was banter. Don't tell me what I meant or why I said it. Prejudice, please.

Also I watch live. I suggest your ignorance to Benteke stems from the fact YOU watch on tv. You can't see how s*** his movement is because he's never in the picture. ie where the balls goes he's miles away.

You lost me on the third person plural thing. I bow down to your English GCSE


Oh yes, "I go to the match, you can't". Actually they have these things called editors who are quite good at making sure you see what's important. I could equally argue that you are 100 miles away in a stand and would need a telescope to see what I can see on the screen, but what would be the point? Your argument isn't motivated by anything objective, if it were it would have balance. Like many on here, you've decided you hate the player and now you only look for evidence that supports that position. It's a good thing Hodgson's mind doesn't work like that.

If I say your remarks cause me offence, then they cause me offence. Calling it "banter" is just an excuse for bad behaviour.

I think I've made a couple of reasoned and balanced comments about him and said what was good and what was not about his play. Did you see my joke the other day about his being arrested for loitering?

Whereas you only have one thing to say and you can't back it up with any argument better than "you're in Scotland so you know nothing". Now if you had played football much I assume you would have some sense of what it felt like to be in a period of poor form, to have folk on your back, to lose your confidence and energy. Yet you speak as if these are pieces of defective machinery which should be sent back to the shop for a refund.

And I'm far too old to have an English GCSE.


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Edited by chateauferret (16 Jan 2018 9.05pm)

 


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chateauferret Flag 16 Jan 18 9.08pm

Originally posted by Willo

Because we have had a decent run in the last 12 games, there hasn't been that much focus on Benteke,his performances and lack of goals.Had we not had such a resurgence, Benteke would have come in for severe criticism.

Well, firstly I do think he has had some part in that resurgence, albeit not in the obvious way I suppose. And secondly that resurgence could be the source of renewed confidence for him, I hope.

 


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