Tim Pool, after interviews, has said that some of those 'neo nazis' aren't nazis but white supremacists and the 'anti them' movement....in other words separatists but whose say that they aren't interested in violence....they don't even call themselves white supremacists but race realists. They fear the disappearance of the white race. I think they are wrong...as there are more white people alive now then ever before in history, but hey.

I've looked into the alt-right once people whose views I have some time for where unfairly described as 'alt-right' or nazis and what you find there is what you'd expect...a diversity.

Some actual new nazis....they are out there
White separatists or race realists as they tend to call themselves
Anti communists...or more accurately none of the above but severely anti government.

Within all this you get bits and pieces of everything....the extreme parts of the religious right for example.

Where it gets silly is when people like right wing or libertarian commentators get called 'alt-right' by the media and their opponents.....You had Jordan Petersen being called 'alt-right' in an article the other week when he delivers courses on the Nazis. I think some of this is confusion about the term and some not so much.

Richard Spencer created the term 'alt-right' to popularise race separatism.

People like Milo and co come under 'alt-lite'.

Essentially these new terms are just new candy for 'right' and 'far right'.

Oh and for those who need me to repeat the obvious....the far right are very bad.....authoritarian systems that close down others are not good. Arguments within society around the edges of free speech are one thing but Stalin (authoritarian communism) and Hitler didn't bother arguing.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Sep 2017 12.17am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I don't tend to be an overly emotional person. Some people are more emotional. They think their statements are more worthy than others.

Pretty much the only things I get that annoyed about are....in order of 'botheredness'....the protection of secularism....issues around free speech..Ethnocentrism....this version of the EU.

You compare my mocking of NFL players....who I do mock..As they are a very public display....as somehow out of alignment with my comment on white supremacists? How much airtime are white supremacists getting actually...if they were as on tv I'd be more vocal about it.

I don't believe in race separatism....You want me to start mocking it? I've heavily criticised that part of black lives matter when they were out there on tv every night and invited into the white house....and I'm happy to criticise white separatists as well.....full of people I'm not aligned with.

You are....as far as I can see, putting out suspicion about me. I can't help how you choose to view me. All I can say is what I do believe in and what I don't.

I'm very critical of progressive thinking on minorities yes....So are plenty of black conservative commentators as well, don't patronize me with this 'race motivation' stuff.

I say what I think. There has only ever been one time when I censored by thoughts on this forum and that was over a joke.

Maybe this is more about how you perceive those who disagree with. I think your attitude to me is kind of similar to how the left treated with suspicion anyone who mentioned problems around the UK's approach to minorities.

That accusing approach led to cover for criminals. Yet, we are still saturated with this thinking.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Sep 2017 1.39am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I think you make the mistake of thinking you know me from just comments on the general section of a football forum. You get an idea but that's it. You over-reach and that's unfortunate but it's your view.

When I read your biased interpretations on the motivations of others I get a sense of projection from you. You get emotional and sneering. Then you accuse others of the same behaviour.

It's interesting that you track my views so closely. I think you make over-reach summaries. I'm putting the 'shutters down on mainstream life' What? I'm a teacher. I work with people of many different views, the majority of them left from me.

The over-reach of saying I have a trans fantasy or that I've 'repeatedly' badgered my girlfriend over the BBC or something......I've talked several times about it but the BBC is just one motivations for changing how I adapt the family media hub....there are several attractions to 'cutting the cord and license'. My girlfriend isn't that political and any change we'd make she'd have to be cool with. I quit Google search over Damore yes...I use Duckduckgo now. Still, it's very hard to stop using all of their excellent products. I hope they adjust their politics on what is sexism sooner rather than later to go along with their suppression of conservative views.

Again, your over-reach of saying I treat people unfairly....blimey, ironic or what. I will remind you Wordy....You don't know me. Personally treating people fairly is central to my self image. You can think what you want.

I have different views to you in some areas. I haven't made projections into your personal life....which isn't very ethical of you.

As for the last sentence, a cheap shot comment on racism suspicion. Are you becoming another Nick?

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Sep 2017 1.55am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Being of a far right/whitey supremacy bent is different to someone whom by their character can be easily manipulated by propaganda and the instilling of paranoia by that group and ends up apparently defending them and empathising without possibly even realising they are.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Weren't you, along with Nick defending antifa?....that group now officially labelled as a domestic terrorism group?

Also, your minimalising of the problems we have with radical Islam here? Reads like you just took the kool aid on that one too.....what was that again....under one percent? Taking positions directly against Islamic reformers.

Kermy you should ring Nawez up on his Saturday LBC show and tell him about his religion and how he's so manipulated and paranoid.

Guess all those death threats he gets are just so much hot air.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Sep 2017 7.56am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Nothing wrong with being anti fascist. I should imagine the vast majority of people are anti fascist. So don't hide in language. You were chided for supporting violence where no violence was required.

Antifa are an official domestic terrorist group and you and Kermy were deriding me and others for criticizing them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Sep 2017 8.19am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)