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 Stirlingsays  12 Aug 15 5.55pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 12 Aug 2015 3.24pm
Article is few months old [Link] Edited by nickgusset (12 Aug 2015 3.24pm)
The same should exist for British citizens aboard.
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| Stirlingsays 12 Aug 15 6.02pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 07 Aug 2015 11.46am
I'd focus on why its economically feasible for an EU working migrant to travel to work in the UK, rather than someone in the UK that's out of work. The Government (this and the last) have essentially colluded with British Companies to allow access to a cheap labour force from within the EU (notably those countries which the exchange rate made working in the UK more lucrative than settling in the UK). Consequently wages were kept artificially low, especially for low and non-skilled labour jobs, which made them more 'competative', and allowed them greater profitability, by reducing their wage bills. If you want to blame someone, its Labour and the Conservatives, who systematically sold this countries working class down the river, for the benefit of the upper working classes, shareholders and middle classes. Pointing the finger at migrant workers isn't the solution, the solution is tying UK wages to inflation and the real cost of living, and investing in relocating the long term unemployed into areas of demand for employment. Spot on. I don't think any reasonable person would actually blame an immigrant for wishing to improve their lives. A lot of this issue is about exactly who the Labour/Conservative parties work for......Who are they meant to represent....Or at least where the emphasis should be laid. The 'progressive' modern Labour party have simply lost the argument with too many of the working class. They have listened to what they have had to say on immigration and they don't like it......Labour wish to treat everyone equally......When they should be representing the best interests of the British working classes.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Aug 15 6.33pm |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 12 Aug 2015 6.02pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 07 Aug 2015 11.46am
I'd focus on why its economically feasible for an EU working migrant to travel to work in the UK, rather than someone in the UK that's out of work. The Government (this and the last) have essentially colluded with British Companies to allow access to a cheap labour force from within the EU (notably those countries which the exchange rate made working in the UK more lucrative than settling in the UK). Consequently wages were kept artificially low, especially for low and non-skilled labour jobs, which made them more 'competative', and allowed them greater profitability, by reducing their wage bills. If you want to blame someone, its Labour and the Conservatives, who systematically sold this countries working class down the river, for the benefit of the upper working classes, shareholders and middle classes. Pointing the finger at migrant workers isn't the solution, the solution is tying UK wages to inflation and the real cost of living, and investing in relocating the long term unemployed into areas of demand for employment. Spot on. I don't think any reasonable person would actually blame an immigrant for wishing to improve their lives. A lot of this issue is about exactly who the Labour/Conservative parties work for......Who are they meant to represent....Or at least where the emphasis should be laid. The 'progressive' modern Labour party have simply lost the argument with too many of the working class. They have listened to what they have had to say on immigration and they don't like it......Labour wish to treat everyone equally......When they should be representing the best interests of the British working classes.
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| johnfirewall 12 Aug 15 6.41pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 12 Aug 2015 6.33pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 12 Aug 2015 6.02pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 07 Aug 2015 11.46am
I'd focus on why its economically feasible for an EU working migrant to travel to work in the UK, rather than someone in the UK that's out of work. The Government (this and the last) have essentially colluded with British Companies to allow access to a cheap labour force from within the EU (notably those countries which the exchange rate made working in the UK more lucrative than settling in the UK). Consequently wages were kept artificially low, especially for low and non-skilled labour jobs, which made them more 'competative', and allowed them greater profitability, by reducing their wage bills. If you want to blame someone, its Labour and the Conservatives, who systematically sold this countries working class down the river, for the benefit of the upper working classes, shareholders and middle classes. Pointing the finger at migrant workers isn't the solution, the solution is tying UK wages to inflation and the real cost of living, and investing in relocating the long term unemployed into areas of demand for employment. Spot on. I don't think any reasonable person would actually blame an immigrant for wishing to improve their lives. A lot of this issue is about exactly who the Labour/Conservative parties work for......Who are they meant to represent....Or at least where the emphasis should be laid. The 'progressive' modern Labour party have simply lost the argument with too many of the working class. They have listened to what they have had to say on immigration and they don't like it......Labour wish to treat everyone equally......When they should be representing the best interests of the British working classes.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Aug 15 6.44pm |
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Quote johnfirewall at 12 Aug 2015 6.41pm
Quote nickgusset at 12 Aug 2015 6.33pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 12 Aug 2015 6.02pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 07 Aug 2015 11.46am
I'd focus on why its economically feasible for an EU working migrant to travel to work in the UK, rather than someone in the UK that's out of work. The Government (this and the last) have essentially colluded with British Companies to allow access to a cheap labour force from within the EU (notably those countries which the exchange rate made working in the UK more lucrative than settling in the UK). Consequently wages were kept artificially low, especially for low and non-skilled labour jobs, which made them more 'competative', and allowed them greater profitability, by reducing their wage bills. If you want to blame someone, its Labour and the Conservatives, who systematically sold this countries working class down the river, for the benefit of the upper working classes, shareholders and middle classes. Pointing the finger at migrant workers isn't the solution, the solution is tying UK wages to inflation and the real cost of living, and investing in relocating the long term unemployed into areas of demand for employment. Spot on. I don't think any reasonable person would actually blame an immigrant for wishing to improve their lives. A lot of this issue is about exactly who the Labour/Conservative parties work for......Who are they meant to represent....Or at least where the emphasis should be laid. The 'progressive' modern Labour party have simply lost the argument with too many of the working class. They have listened to what they have had to say on immigration and they don't like it......Labour wish to treat everyone equally......When they should be representing the best interests of the British working classes.
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| leggedstruggle Croydon 12 Aug 15 6.54pm |
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I'm in complete agreement with Jamie and Stirling on this. Goodness knows who Nick thinks the current Left represent, certainly mot British Workers.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Aug 15 7.16pm |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 12 Aug 2015 6.54pm
I'm in complete agreement with Jamie and Stirling on this. Goodness knows who Nick thinks the current Left represent, certainly mot British Workers.
The Market for the low paid jobs is there, that's one of the reasons why people are coming. Cut off the low paid job market, the workers will move elsewhere.
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| leggedstruggle Croydon 12 Aug 15 7.25pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 12 Aug 2015 7.16pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 12 Aug 2015 6.54pm
I'm in complete agreement with Jamie and Stirling on this. Goodness knows who Nick thinks the current Left represent, certainly mot British Workers.
The Market for the low paid jobs is there, that's one of the reasons why people are coming. Cut off the low paid job market, the workers will move elsewhere. I have written to my MP on this. Just get the usual stuff about free movement of goods and people etc - how wonderful and beneficial it all is - Legaleagle could have written it.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 12 Aug 15 7.38pm |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 12 Aug 2015 7.25pm
Quote nickgusset at 12 Aug 2015 7.16pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 12 Aug 2015 6.54pm
I'm in complete agreement with Jamie and Stirling on this. Goodness knows who Nick thinks the current Left represent, certainly mot British Workers.
The Market for the low paid jobs is there, that's one of the reasons why people are coming. Cut off the low paid job market, the workers will move elsewhere. I have written to my MP on this. Just get the usual stuff about free movement of goods and people etc - how wonderful and beneficial it all is - Legaleagle could have written it. Does not surprise me about your MP, that's the world we live in i'm afraid mate - offend nobody, please nobody.
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| Stirlingsays 12 Aug 15 8.33pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 12 Aug 2015 6.33pm
You're sounding like John 'British jobs for British workers' Prescott.
I'd be willing to actually implement the necessary requirements to help British working classes.....Actually get back to where they were before 'freedom of movement' disadvantaged some of them.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Aug 15 8.38pm |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 12 Aug 2015 8.33pm
Quote nickgusset at 12 Aug 2015 6.33pm
You're sounding like John 'British jobs for British workers' Prescott.
I'd be willing to actually implement the necessary requirements to help British working classes.....Actually get back to where they were before 'freedom of movement' disadvantaged some of them.
Meanwhile all British expats are repatriated...
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| Stirlingsays 12 Aug 15 8.58pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 12 Aug 2015 8.38pm
Meanwhile all British expats are repatriated...
I don't know if you had noticed Nick.....But we have plenty of non EU migrants here.......Are you getting a sense of your own over exaggeration yet? As for British expats.....Excepting those directly related, those intending to come back or those who moved for medical conditions.......Why should I or anyone else give a monkeys about people who dumped this country and who pay into another country's tax system. Like Eagle said....He'll never contribute to your pension. As far as I'm concerned, they made their bed.
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