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matt_himself Matataland 06 Sep 17 5.28pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
You can't kill a foetus, under the definitions of UK law it is not alive. Even in later stages of pregnancy I'm fairly sure that UK law does not allow for homicide to be extended to the unborn. Jacob Rees-Mogg is arguably supporting a stance that says other people cannot have abortions. Corbyn is saying he won't eat meat. I don't necessarily disagree with Rees-Mogg, each person is entitled to their opinions, until they try to enforce those as rules to be applied to others. A small point but given your pedantic tendencies, there is no such thing as UK law.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 06 Sep 17 5.32pm | |
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Could a Catholic bakery be prosecuted for refusing to put "support abortion" on a cake?
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Stirlingsays 06 Sep 17 5.38pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Its very rare to see a termination conducted at 22 weeks for anything other than medical reasons. In most of these cases, terminations would be legal after the 24 week mark anyhow. Usually abortions are 8-16 weeks. Anti-Abortionists like to focus on as close that window as possible, as it constructs an emotive argument - They know they cannot get a ban, but that the agenda is to chip away instead at the provision. You see this in the US, where states introduce policy aimed at getting around the Supreme Court decisions, by limiting access, availability, targeting medical qualification and funding. This to me, is concerning, as its effectively a corruptive practice to deny people their legal rights. Perhaps....if you had some skin in the game, you might shift a little....like I did....perhaps not. Sure it's emotive...life and death is emotive. But I don't feel comfortable telling others what to do with their bodies. So it's a situation where I feel a person should hear both sides of the argument.
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Stirlingsays 06 Sep 17 5.39pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Could a Catholic bakery be prosecuted for refusing to put "support abortion" on a cake? Good point....another kick in the bollocks for that original ruling.
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 06 Sep 17 6.20pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Could a Catholic bakery be prosecuted for refusing to put "support abortion" on a cake? I believe the answer could be "yes". Anyway, as said he is a religious zealot bound by doctrinal bigotry. Although I doubt he could see the irony, it is not worth debating with him similar to Anjem Choudary.
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Stirlingsays 06 Sep 17 7.07pm | |
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Originally posted by pefwin
I believe the answer could be "yes". Anyway, as said he is a religious zealot bound by doctrinal bigotry. Although I doubt he could see the irony, it is not worth debating with him similar to Anjem Choudary. That's both a ridiculous comparison and a contemptible one. Perhaps it's people like you who aren't worth the effort. People voted Mogg into parliament. I surmise you wouldn't get more votes than a bag of enthusiastic testicles running on a manifesto of mass extinctions.
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 06 Sep 17 7.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
That's both a ridiculous comparison and a contemptible one. Perhaps it's people like you who aren't worth the effort. People voted Mogg into parliament. I surmise you wouldn't get more votes than a bag of enthusiastic testicles running on a manifesto of mass extinctions. That's just being moronic because you don't like what you read or understand the comparison and the points being made. Ever thought that this could be a ideological pointthe men would agree on? Perhaps testing for an EX-school teacher.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Sep 17 7.17pm | |
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Originally posted by pefwin
That's just being moronic because you don't like what you read or understand the comparison and the points being made. Ever thought that this could be a ideological pointthe men would agree on? Perhaps testing for an EX-school teacher. There are a lot of ex school teachers which is increasing too rapidly. Other than that, spot on.
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Stirlingsays 06 Sep 17 7.24pm | |
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Originally posted by pefwin
That's just being moronic because you don't like what you read or understand the comparison and the points being made. Ever thought that this could be a ideological pointthe men would agree on? Perhaps testing for an EX-school teacher. I'm not an ex-school teacher....God it's so boring that wallies try and use the fact that I can't be bothered to update my profile as some kind of insult. Why the sexist point? Try to stop being a plonker....Mind you, I'm aware that for you....this might be a tough ask....Like expecting Justin Bieber to write a Shakespearean level play.
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Stirlingsays 06 Sep 17 7.25pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
There are a lot of ex school teachers which is increasing too rapidly. Other than that, spot on. What that Mogg is similar to Anjem Choudary? That's idiotic. You would run screaming from the kind of land Choudary wants. Whereas you live in an area Mogg would get a lot of votes in......Hypocrisy. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Sep 2017 7.27pm)
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matt_himself Matataland 06 Sep 17 7.30pm | |
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Originally posted by pefwin
I believe the answer could be "yes". Anyway, as said he is a religious zealot bound by doctrinal bigotry. Although I doubt he could see the irony, it is not worth debating with him similar to Anjem Choudary. Do you know what bigotry means? It doesn't mean holding views that oppose yours, or views which are unfashionable. It means an intolerance towards those whom hold different views.
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matt_himself Matataland 06 Sep 17 7.33pm | |
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Originally posted by pefwin
That's just being moronic because you don't like what you read or understand the comparison and the points being made. Ever thought that this could be a ideological pointthe men would agree on? Perhaps testing for an EX-school teacher. I believe that JRm and Choudary would have different views on abortion. Read about it. It will enlighten you and hopefully shift some of your bigotry.
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