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hedgehog50  Croydon 24 Mar 17 1.25pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
"All known terrorists past and prest are either black or arab. Well said Hedgehog." Where did I say that?
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 Mstrobez 24 Mar 17 1.26pm |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
Take away skin colour, country of origin and ancestral history just for one moment please.... One thought.. Yes it's terrorism but mental health has to be at the heart of this.. no one normal / same / well balanced does something like that. End of! Secondly.. still forget the skin colour and ethnicity for ANYONE to be carrying out an act like this we have to ask what is drawing them to the ideology of Islamic state and radicalism. For what it's worth and it's only my opinion one day, might be next week might be in 10 years time you Mark my words we will have someone English, white, born here who will convert and do something like this. I am sure of it... which is why we need to ask what is drawing these men to stuff like this ! And you can bet your bottom dollar, because the sick and twisted ideology comes from a white person, it will be scrutinized beyond degree.. The media and society in general will have no problem with exposing what is preached as moronic and the scumbags who try and spread it will be drowned out fairly quickly. Not sure why everything always has to be a race/skin colour debate. Islam is NOT a race
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Kermit8  Hevon 24 Mar 17 1.37pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
"All known terrorists past and prest are either black or arab. Well said Hedgehog." Where did I say that? Lee Rigby murderers and one of the 7/7 terrorists. But of course the head in the sand, or head up somewhere else, liberal left, will continue to tell us that these sort of events have nothing whatsoever to do with Islam or ethnicity
Stern Gang, EOKA, IRA and countless other terrorist organisations indulged in such events as murdering soldiers. It's the Wahhabis doing it now but, unfortunately, it is not an act bound by ethnic nor religious background as history tells us and as you are trying to portray.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 24 Mar 17 1.59pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Lee Rigby murderers and one of the 7/7 terrorists. But of course the head in the sand, or head up somewhere else, liberal left, will continue to tell us that these sort of events have nothing whatsoever to do with Islam or ethnicity
Stern Gang, EOKA, IRA and countless other terrorist organisations indulged in such events as murdering soldiers. It's the Wahhabis doing it now but, unfortunately, it is not an act bound by ethnic nor religious background as history tells us and as you are trying to portray. "These sort of events"? Events carried out by Islamic extremists such as the ones I stated. How is that saying "All known terrorists past and prest are either black or arab. Well said Hedgehog." Edited by hedgehog50 (24 Mar 2017 1.59pm)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 24 Mar 17 2.01pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Lee Rigby murderers and one of the 7/7 terrorists. But of course the head in the sand, or head up somewhere else, liberal left, will continue to tell us that these sort of events have nothing whatsoever to do with Islam or ethnicity
Stern Gang, EOKA, IRA and countless other terrorist organisations indulged in such events as murdering soldiers. It's the Wahhabis doing it now but, unfortunately, it is not an act bound by ethnic nor religious background as history tells us and as you are trying to portray. You know what Hedgehog is trying to say so why waste time with this daft aside. The problem right now is Muslim extremists and let's face it they ain't gonna be white. What difference would that make anyway? If I was stabbed or run over by a white bloke I would not be happier about it.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 24 Mar 17 2.10pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
You never fail to try and get a dig in at Teresa May do you? Almost a daily occurrence. This could have been seen off as failure and desperation now evil people will think of it as a success and likely want to copy. The best response is just to carry on as normal and the PM to make a comment when the facts are known. I caught the Channel 4 news and they had quickly decided who had done this and treated us to footage of the clerics life lasting about 10 minutes. Unfortunately a relative of the killer called the program and pointed out that it was his brother and he was in prison.
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| elgrande bedford 24 Mar 17 2.14pm |
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It's not the colour of the skin that is a problem,it's the 7th century mindset.
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 24 Mar 17 2.21pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Lee Rigby murderers and one of the 7/7 terrorists. But of course the head in the sand, or head up somewhere else, liberal left, will continue to tell us that these sort of events have nothing whatsoever to do with Islam or ethnicity
Stern Gang, EOKA, IRA and countless other terrorist organisations indulged in such events as murdering soldiers. It's the Wahhabis doing it now but, unfortunately, it is not an act bound by ethnic nor religious background as history tells us and as you are trying to portray. As unpalatable as it may be for some, The terror that the west faces at present is certainly based in the fanatical element of Islam. The perpetrators of which do tend to fit a certain racial profile. Obviously terrorism is not the just the premise of fundamentalist Islamic nutter, history is littered with all types willing to die for whatever reason that was vogue at the time. However to suggest anything else than "at present we are under attack from fundamentalist Islam", is tantamount to sticking your fingers in your ears shutting your eyes and shouting lalalalalala.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 24 Mar 17 2.37pm |
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Originally posted by dannyh
As unpalatable as it may be for some, The terror that the west faces at present is certainly based in the fanatical element of Islam. The perpetrators of which do tend to fit a certain racial profile. Obviously terrorism is not the just the premise of fundamentalist Islamic nutter, history is littered with all types willing to die for whatever reason that was vogue at the time. However to suggest anything else than "at present we are under attack from fundamentalist Islam", is tantamount to sticking your fingers in your ears shutting your eyes and shouting lalalalalala.
I would be quite happy if The West (and Russia) brought Saudi and Qatar to their knees, crying and begging to be allowed to wipe Wahhabism off the face of the earth.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 Mar 17 2.43pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
And you can bet your bottom dollar, because the sick and twisted ideology comes from a white person, it will be scrutinized beyond degree.. The media and society in general will have no problem with exposing what is preached as moronic and the scumbags who try and spread it will be drowned out fairly quickly. Not sure why everything always has to be a race/skin colour debate. Islam is NOT a race Indeed. And were there to be a similar risk from Neo Nazis with us battling them in the desert at the same time as fearing attacks at home, the liberal left would be pissing their pants and falling over themselves to expose the evils of their mind set and the media would be a barrage of propaganda aimed at encouraging hate toward them.
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| matt_himself Matataland 24 Mar 17 2.49pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
I would be quite happy if The West (and Russia) brought Saudi and Qatar to their knees, crying and begging to be allowed to wipe Wahhabism off the face of the earth. How do you 'wipe Wahhabism off the face of the Earth'? How do you decide which religions and sects should be 'wiped off the face of the Earth'? It all sounds facist to me. You don't kill ideas by banning, or trying, to ban them. You kill them by planting better ideas in the minds of the protagonists or would be protagonists. Edited by matt_himself (24 Mar 2017 2.49pm)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Mar 17 2.57pm |
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Originally posted by dannyh
As unpalatable as it may be for some, The terror that the west faces at present is certainly based in the fanatical element of Islam. The perpetrators of which do tend to fit a certain racial profile. Obviously terrorism is not the just the premise of fundamentalist Islamic nutter, history is littered with all types willing to die for whatever reason that was vogue at the time. However to suggest anything else than "at present we are under attack from fundamentalist Islam", is tantamount to sticking your fingers in your ears shutting your eyes and shouting lalalalalala.
Fundamentalist is the key word. We need to do whatever we can to get rid of them. That does not justify blanket condemnation and suspicion of all Muslims in my book.
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