Yep true, didnt mean to be derogatory about HR. The best economist i ever worked with had a music degree. Perceptive, articulate, insightful -really quite brilliant. Left to pursue his own thing which didnt really work out. The trouble with hiring 'system' degree people who gernerally all have economics, accounting or business qualifications (in an economic or research based environment) is that you lose the mavericks (who can easily be trained on the job) and who are often the best hires IMO.

He said an economics degree is as worthwhile as one in textile, and most get a 2.2 with tutor's help and multiple choice exams. Where he got this information from I'd be incredibly interested to see. I asked him what an economics degree actually involved, he hasn't yet replied to that. For these reasons I called him ignorant.

I would like to withdraw my comment dismissing Landsdale's opinion as he is an old white man who typically are pro Brexit. It wasn't well thought through. (However, on the same note you can't dismiss highly intelligent academics because they have beards and sandles!)

If I have insulted anyone I apologise or if I have been arrogant (I have occasionally been accused of this in real life (at least I'm consistent)).

But my arrogance does not in the slightest dismiss the notion that we are far better inside than outside of the EU, for many reasons given above.

Edited by big_palace_fan (05 May 2016 2.35pm)

It was Peter Hargreaves' opinion you were dismissing!

Clearly on reflection you have rightly withdrawn it.

Elephants value the older member's of their herd and rely on them to find water in periods of extreme drought. You dismiss old people's opinions at your peril young man!

My attack on Economists and students was obviously in retaliation and for a wind-up. I apologise for insulting or offending anyone

I still think that Economists rely too much on assumptions for their forecasts and quite often get them wildly wrong.

I'm sure it is fascinating Dan and a worthwhile career.

I was only retaliating to a crass comment, and went a bit OTT with my response.

Regards good buddy.

Get off your high horse Mr Stalker.

You'll find me to be a very reasonable and fair poster with those that post sensibly.

However, when someone has an attack on me, I come out guns blazing with no holds barred.

On this occasion, he made the outrageous assertion that old white men's opinions are not valid, so I sent in the attack dogs.

With you, it is different... you seem to stalk my posts with your childish snidey remarks and put downs on just about every topic I get involved in.

If you keep it up I'll continue to have spats with you, but you could grow up and just ignore my posts.

You'll see that I have apologised in the post above following his retraction of his insult to me.

I have no gears to grind with you or anybody else on here, so I'd appreciate your co-operation.

Edited by Hoof Hearted (06 May 2016 11.07am)

Sorry, but it does seem that you have been "on my case" previously.... and regarding this topic, you steamed in and made no reference or allowance for the fact that I was provoked before I had a go at students.

I have no problem with anyone challenging the points I make on any topic, and if as you say, you have no issues with me, then I look forward to our next debate.

I am not above apologising when I'm wrong or have behaved in an unsocial or aggressive/unfair manner.

Regards