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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 13 Sep 15 8.23pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Quote serial thriller at 13 Sep 2015 2.08pm

One more point: this is a momentous result beyond Britain's borders because you now have a major party leader whose foreign policy will probably not involve war, arms supplying and economic exploitation.

I am not a Labour party member, and am undecided as to whether I'll vote Corbyn should he remain leader in 2020. But this to me is his greatest virtue.

I'm in Turkey at the moment and I've spoken to loads of people from across the Middle East, and the overriding opinion among even the more Westernised middle classes is that Britain is a massive cause of disturbance in the region. I spoke to a guy from Yemen, who are being bombed by Saudi Arabia, and the vitriol he poured on Britain for supplying arms to a Wahabist extremist state who have murdered around 20 000 Yemeni in 6 months was so uncharacteristic of someone who was otherwise an incredibly polite, humble man it really made me think.

Likewise, that we will have a leader of the opposition who is openly critical of Israel, who are not only continuing to commit war crimes on the West Bank but are threatening to renew tensions with Iran in the area is massive. Maybe we will even stop supplying weapons and armoury to Qatar, Kuwait and the Saudis for them to channel on to IS?

It's easy to just look at home and regard the effect Corbyn's politics will have, but actually the biggest positive in my mind is that we shift our stance on the global scene.

The Yemin people were not meak and humble when I spent three years of my life in Aden fighting them as they were trying to get the oil refinery and killed many british servicemen who are buried out there. We spent months up in the mountains stopping them coming through the pass at Dhala. I also remember the time we had to go up to near Sana their main fort and collect all the dead bodies of the ITV crew and some Coldstream guards bodies as well. It was not nice and I have no sympathy for them at all ....its come back to bite them that's for sure!

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Sep 15 9.39pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

The only effect Corbyn will have is to ensure that Labour will not be elected at the next election.

The fact that he won a convincing victory only demonstrates how out of touch Labour members are with reality.

 

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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 13 Sep 2015 9.39pm

The only effect Corbyn will have is to ensure that Labour will not be elected at the next election.

The fact that he won a convincing victory only demonstrates how out of touch Labour members are with reality.


I think some of the older posters on here underestimate how much he's ignited passion amongst the (previously) politically apathetic young. Just because you don't see the possibility of a man speaking sense about so many important issues becoming Prime Minister, it doesn't mean it won't happen.

Corbyn becoming PM is no crazier a suggestion than The US electing its first black president.

 


It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Sep 15 9.52pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 13 Sep 2015 9.39pm

The only effect Corbyn will have is to ensure that Labour will not be elected at the next election.

The fact that he won a convincing victory only demonstrates how out of touch Labour members are with reality.

There have of course been mutterings that he will be ousted before the election so there could be a lot of "Blood letting" within the Labour Party in the coming months and years.

There is the risk that instead of trying to be an effective "Opposition" they will concentrate their efforts in a bitter internal "War".


 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Sep 15 9.58pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote jcreedy at 13 Sep 2015 9.50pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 13 Sep 2015 9.39pm

The only effect Corbyn will have is to ensure that Labour will not be elected at the next election.

The fact that he won a convincing victory only demonstrates how out of touch Labour members are with reality.


I think some of the older posters on here underestimate how much he's ignited passion amongst the (previously) politically apathetic young. Just because you don't see the possibility of a man speaking sense about so many important issues becoming Prime Minister, it doesn't mean it won't happen.

Corbyn becoming PM is no crazier a suggestion than The US electing its first black president.

I could envisage a black US President - I simply cannot envisage Corbyn becoming PM.


 

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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 13 Sep 15 10.24pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Corbin has some headline policies that will appeal to a lot of people of all political persuasions

However when you dig into the detail it's a different story

I don't think for one moment he will get elected in fact he'll be gone in a few years, but I do think he will influence Labour enough for them to shift to the left for 2020.

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

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johnfirewall Flag 13 Sep 15 10.27pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

Sums up a lot of lefties. A lot of beliefs but no ideas.

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Sep 15 10.27pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 13 Sep 2015 10.24pm

Corbin has some headline policies that will appeal to a lot of people of all political persuasions

However when you dig into the detail it's a different story

I don't think for one moment he will get elected in fact he'll be gone in a few years, but I do think he will influence Labour enough for them to shift to the left for 2020.

Describing Hamas and Hezbollah as "Friends" and the death of Osama Bin Laden as a "Tragedy".
And that the last Labour government spent too little !


Edited by Willo (13 Sep 2015 10.37pm)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 13 Sep 15 11.06pm

Quote Willo at 13 Sep 2015 10.27pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 13 Sep 2015 10.24pm

Corbin has some headline policies that will appeal to a lot of people of all political persuasions

However when you dig into the detail it's a different story

I don't think for one moment he will get elected in fact he'll be gone in a few years, but I do think he will influence Labour enough for them to shift to the left for 2020.



Describing Hamas and Hezbollah as "Friends" and the death of Osama Bin Laden as a "Tragedy".
And that the last Labour government spent too little !


Edited by Willo (13 Sep 2015 10.37pm)


Would you like to provide the context for these two oft used gems for the benefit of those who don't know it?

 

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oldcodger Flag 13 Sep 15 11.42pm Send a Private Message to oldcodger Add oldcodger as a friend

Quote Willo at 13 Sep 2015 9.58pm

Quote jcreedy at 13 Sep 2015 9.50pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 13 Sep 2015 9.39pm

The only effect Corbyn will have is to ensure that Labour will not be elected at the next election.

The fact that he won a convincing victory only demonstrates how out of touch Labour members are with reality.


I think some of the older posters on here underestimate how much he's ignited passion amongst the (previously) politically apathetic young. Just because you don't see the possibility of a man speaking sense about so many important issues becoming Prime Minister, it doesn't mean it won't happen.

Corbyn becoming PM is no crazier a suggestion than The US electing its first black president.

I could envisage a black US President - I simply cannot envisage Corbyn becoming PM.


Says everyone now that it's happened..

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 13 Sep 15 11.52pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 13 Sep 2015 11.06pm

Quote Willo at 13 Sep 2015 10.27pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 13 Sep 2015 10.24pm

Corbin has some headline policies that will appeal to a lot of people of all political persuasions

However when you dig into the detail it's a different story

I don't think for one moment he will get elected in fact he'll be gone in a few years, but I do think he will influence Labour enough for them to shift to the left for 2020.



Describing Hamas and Hezbollah as "Friends" and the death of Osama Bin Laden as a "Tragedy".
And that the last Labour government spent too little !


Edited by Willo (13 Sep 2015 10.37pm)


Would you like to provide the context for these two oft used gems for the benefit of those who don't know it?


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 13 Sep 15 11.55pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Quote Jimenez at 13 Sep 2015 11.52pm

Quote nickgusset at 13 Sep 2015 11.06pm

Quote Willo at 13 Sep 2015 10.27pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 13 Sep 2015 10.24pm

Corbin has some headline policies that will appeal to a lot of people of all political persuasions

However when you dig into the detail it's a different story

I don't think for one moment he will get elected in fact he'll be gone in a few years, but I do think he will influence Labour enough for them to shift to the left for 2020.



Describing Hamas and Hezbollah as "Friends" and the death of Osama Bin Laden as a "Tragedy".
And that the last Labour government spent too little !


Edited by Willo (13 Sep 2015 10.37pm)


Would you like to provide the context for these two oft used gems for the benefit of those who don't know it?


[Link]

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Happy Rosh Hashanah by the way.....

 


Pro USA & Israel

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