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derben  29 May 15 4.16pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 29 May 2015 4.13pm
Quote derben at 29 May 2015 11.07am
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Quote Stirlingsays at 29 May 2015 8.12am
Quote derben at 29 May 2015 7.00am
It must be frustrating for our law makers and enforcers that they cannot know or control the thoughts of the hypothetical people in the shop. Surely, as a progressive measure, they should be spending large amounts of our taxes on researching into the means of reading people's thoughts so that they can prosecute people for actual thought-crimes rather than perceived ones. I wouldn't serve Gareth Lee in my Northern Ireland cake shop; not because of his gayness (I presume he is gay) but because he is a bigoted troublemaker. Similarly, I would not serve Gerry Adams (I presume he is not gay), although I realise the latter might not be good for my knees. Edited by derben (29 May 2015 7.35am) I completely concur with the sentiment.....Seconded.
He went to a shop.They refused to honour their agreement to make a cake with a certain message calling for something many people believe is reasonable.The message wasn't abusive in any way.He was discriminated against because of the owners' attitudes on sexuality.There's no suggestion he ordered the cake knowing of the owners' particular attitudes. Whether or not you think the law of the land is right or wrong or whether you think he was wrong to go to lawyers,what precisely did he do in your view to qualify him as being a bigot? He did nothing that was intolerant of other people's opinions.He wasn't refusing to serve anyone because of their beliefs or to use a shop because of the owners' beliefs.So,regardless of what you think of the law and whatever else you might want to say about Lee,the only bigots (going on the definition of the word) in the situation were the owners. Amazing how some twist things so the person on the receiving end of the discriminatory act becomes the bigot! That can sometimes say more about the attitudes of the name callers than about Lee. bigot: "a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions." So in your case, they're all bigots (the judge, the plantiff and the defendant, along with their council)
Yes, pretty much!
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| derben 29 May 15 4.17pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 29 May 2015 4.13pm
Quote derben at 28 May 2015 9.00pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 May 2015 6.17pm
Quote derben at 28 May 2015 2.41pm
In general, it would be left to people to use their common sense. That's an unworkable system. should work much better? It's no surprise that you do not rate common sense. Edited by derben (28 May 2015 9.10pm) Because it doesn't exist, as clearly we've established probably having spent several actual hours of time arguing on an internet forum, about cakes. I have to agree with you there Jamie, perhaps we should call it a day - enjoyed it though! Edited by derben (29 May 2015 4.49pm)
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| ZIGnZAG Stoke 29 May 15 4.21pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 29 May 2015 4.13pm
Quote derben at 28 May 2015 9.00pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 May 2015 6.17pm
Quote derben at 28 May 2015 2.41pm
In general, it would be left to people to use their common sense. That's an unworkable system. should work much better? It's no surprise that you do not rate common sense. Edited by derben (28 May 2015 9.10pm) Because it doesn't exist, as clearly we've established probably having spent several actual hours of time arguing on an internet forum, about cakes.
Edited by ZIGnZAG (29 May 2015 4.22pm)
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| ZIGnZAG Stoke 29 May 15 4.23pm |
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NO to gay marriage.
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 Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 29 May 15 4.35pm |
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Quote ZIGnZAG at 29 May 2015 4.23pm
NO to gay marriage.
Poor dannyh
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| elgrande bedford 29 May 15 6.08pm |
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Quote Superfly at 29 May 2015 4.35pm
Quote ZIGnZAG at 29 May 2015 4.23pm
NO to gay marriage.
Poor dannyh
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| Stirlingsays 29 May 15 6.24pm |
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Should 'gay cake' have official rainbow icing? Does it have to be kept in the closet until it matures and then unexpectedly come out of the closet? Is it likely to try to mate with other cakes? These are the important questions this early Friday evening. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 May 2015 6.26pm)
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| derben 29 May 15 6.55pm |
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It has just occurred to me that this whole controversy has been a misunderstanding. By "support same-sex marriage", Gareth Lee probably meant you should only employ the missionary position in marriage. This would be something the religious owners of Ashers Bakery could support, surely?
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| ZIGnZAG Stoke 29 May 15 7.27pm |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 29 May 2015 6.24pm
Should 'gay cake' have official rainbow icing? Does it have to be kept in the closet until it matures and then unexpectedly come out of the closet? Is it likely to try to mate with other cakes? These are the important questions this early Friday evening. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 May 2015 6.26pm) Gay cake.....
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| legaleagle 29 May 15 8.02pm |
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Blimey
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| Steptoe 30 May 15 10.02am |
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Quote ZIGnZAG at 29 May 2015 7.27pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 29 May 2015 6.24pm
Should 'gay cake' have official rainbow icing? Does it have to be kept in the closet until it matures and then unexpectedly come out of the closet? Is it likely to try to mate with other cakes? These are the important questions this early Friday evening. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 May 2015 6.26pm) Gay cake..... You pair make Bernard Manning look refined.
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| Stirlingsays 30 May 15 10.39am |
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Quote Steptoe at 30 May 2015 10.02am
You pair make Bernard Manning look refined. Jeez, I was just trying to lighten the mood. I think comparing me to Bernard Manning says more about you than it says about me.
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