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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 17 Dec 20 12.49pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

I said alleged because his touch lets him down as a midfielder time after time.

He does play CB at international level which leaves questions as to why he has been played in midfield consistently by your hero Roy.

Fact is, that he's not really a specialist in either position. His been largely a poor to average signing. He's not done anything of note in his time here and plays in two positions where we have plenty of back up. He is an argument of why Hodgson shouldn't be trusted in the transfer market, as no matter what we need, we'll try and sign another defensive midfielder.

You love taking things out of context or being willfully ignorance. If you read the posts you'll see I said I think Kouyate was ball watching and should have cut out the cross. It wasn't a great cross and drifting away from the goal. Haller had time to turn and react. All Kouyate had to do was take a couple of steps forward, but he just stood rooted to the spot.

Tompkins hasn't got on the pitch yet this season... so I'm how you draw a comparison between results with and without Tompkins... I don't know.

The reason I consistently call you out is because of your anti Hodgson agenda. The majority of your posts have that undercurrent running through them. And, as with your latest effort, don't stand up to scrutiny.

It may have escaped your attention ( or could it be wilful ignorance ) that we signed Eze - not a defensive midfielder, but a young, exciting player with enormous potential. No doubt you will conjure up a response which will include some anti Hodgson sentiment.

Yes, I saw your claim that Kouyate and the cross, but I think you are using that for your own agenda as you patently don't rate the player, and if it's your opinion, fine, although I disagree. And you managed to criticise him in a response to Tickled Pink's comment about how Palace allow too many crosses into the box. Pathetic.

My results comment you clearly struggled with...I was not drawing any comparisons, just stating that we have just gone 3 games unbeaten with Kouyate in the team.

 


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Painter Flag Croydon 17 Dec 20 1.03pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Tompkins isn't getting a look in whilst we consistently play an (alleged) midfielder as a centre back. It started out OK when he needed to stand in, has run his course.

Kouyate is an international centre back and captains his country from that position. He also has pace, which none of the othe CBS do.

 

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jeeagles Flag 17 Dec 20 1.09pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

The reason I consistently call you out is because of your anti Hodgson agenda. The majority of your posts have that undercurrent running through them. And, as with your latest effort, don't stand up to scrutiny.

It may have escaped your attention ( or could it be wilful ignorance ) that we signed Eze - not a defensive midfielder, but a young, exciting player with enormous potential. No doubt you will conjure up a response which will include some anti Hodgson sentiment.

Yes, I saw your claim that Kouyate and the cross, but I think you are using that for your own agenda as you patently don't rate the player, and if it's your opinion, fine, although I disagree. And you managed to criticise him in a response to Tickled Pink's comment about how Palace allow too many crosses into the box. Pathetic.

My results comment you clearly struggled with...I was not drawing any comparisons, just stating that we have just gone 3 games unbeaten with Kouyate in the team.

I like your signature.

 

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 17 Dec 20 1.12pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

I like your signature.

Is that what your debating skills have been reduced to?

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Dec 20 1.25pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

But the first was never a yellow, fact!
The 2nd occurred because the defender was late getting to Benteke and, possibly deliberately, headed his arm. Watch it again very clear.
Ogbonna’s reaction of clutching face on the first one was outrageous, his arm made as much contact with Benteke, watch it again, fact!

Without meaning to be paranoid it feels as though if Benteke had scored the overhead kick he’d have been booked and sent off for dangerous play.

 

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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 17 Dec 20 1.34pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

The incidents were identical with Benteke's right arm making contact with the player.

Having produced a 'Yellow' for the first incident one can understand why the referee brandished a 'Yellow' for the second, which of course had to be followed by a 'Red'.
The referee was certainly consistent and supporters keep calling for consistency from referees.

In the interests of NOT turning this into a Willo thread I shall make no further comment on the decisions taken by Mr Coote.

Edited by Willo (17 Dec 2020 11.22am)


same old same old eh willo??
You know as well as we do that he is a totally rubbish referee, maybe even bent,proved last night as well as at Everton, why cant you just admit it.....does mark have something to blackmail you with??

Edited by the silurian (17 Dec 2020 1.35pm)

 

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Fatherken Flag 17 Dec 20 1.52pm Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

I still think that the ref should be made [ like managers ] to face the cameras and explain why they gave any decision they made .

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Dec 20 1.57pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Fatherken

I still think that the ref should be made [ like managers ] to face the cameras and explain why they gave any decision they made .

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PatrickA Flag London 17 Dec 20 1.59pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Such a pity we didn’t get a deserved second goal before half time.
It’s unlikely West Ham would have come back from that.
I think we look more solid defensively with Ward in the side as he is a very good penalty box defender.
It’s a shame Benteke isn’t available for Liverpool as he enables us to play further up the field and Liverpool look more vulnerable in the air without Van Diyk.
I suspect Ayew will come in, but for all his hard work and running he doesn’t link play or allow us to build play in the opponent’s half.

 

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Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 17 Dec 20 2.01pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Most of Eze's passes were short one's that he under hit. He's still a work in progress but he has huge potential and we look a different team with him in it.


Yes, he did strangely under-hit a couple or pass the ball straight to the opposition player. We do look a different team with him in it and we seem to have an added dimension going forward and don’t seem anywhere near as reliant on Wilf (who didn’t play at all well last night but can be forgiven as he has been overall, much better this season).

Edited by Phil’s Barber (17 Dec 2020 2.04pm)

 

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jeeagles Flag 17 Dec 20 2.15pm

Originally posted by Painter
Kouyate is an international centre back and captains his country from that position. He also has pace, which none of the othe CBS do.

This is a fair and reasoned argument for his place in the team. If the manager feels that his comparative technical ability is offset by technical ability then that's fine.

In fairness, it was only a small laps in concentration and that happens from time to time. I was just trying to point out that often when "worldies" are scored, its normally down to their being no pressure on the attacking player. If it was Sakho, he may be getting ripped apart by some.

Normally, people justify Roy's position because he is from Croydon, old, untalented, and white (talent being the only relevant point in a persons failings - but people seek comfort in using the other two as an excuse). They never put forward any argument to support his decisions, such as his repeated refusal to change formation last season. He's finally done it, and its paying dividends.

 

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palace chick Flag South Croydon 17 Dec 20 4.39pm Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

To be fair their goal was absolutely class and whilst rather extraordinary it was certainly not a fluke.

I think the overhead kick was class but the build up could have been stopped if firstly Maca had tackled the ball/guy that went past him to easily and then there was no one to to cut out the free cross that came in as we had a left back (PVA) and Eze out of position. Think we were our own downfall in that goal which was superbly taken?

 

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