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kenbarr Flag Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 05 May 16 1.13pm Send a Private Message to kenbarr Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add kenbarr as a friend

Thank you all. Now, can we get back on topic without the personal attacks?

 


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big_palace_fan Flag 05 May 16 2.34pm Send a Private Message to big_palace_fan Add big_palace_fan as a friend

Originally posted by fed up eagle

Erm...no he sounds like he has a valid point to me. Don't discount it just because you don't agree with it.

He said an economics degree is as worthwhile as one in textile, and most get a 2.2 with tutor's help and multiple choice exams. Where he got this information from I'd be incredibly interested to see. I asked him what an economics degree actually involved, he hasn't yet replied to that. For these reasons I called him ignorant.

I would like to withdraw my comment dismissing Landsdale's opinion as he is an old white man who typically are pro Brexit. It wasn't well thought through. (However, on the same note you can't dismiss highly intelligent academics because they have beards and sandles!)

If I have insulted anyone I apologise or if I have been arrogant (I have occasionally been accused of this in real life (at least I'm consistent)).

But my arrogance does not in the slightest dismiss the notion that we are far better inside than outside of the EU, for many reasons given above.

Edited by big_palace_fan (05 May 2016 2.35pm)

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 May 16 2.39pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by big_palace_fan

He said an economics degree is as worthwhile as one in textile, and most get a 2.2 with tutor's help and multiple choice exams. Where he got this information from I'd be incredibly interested to see. I asked him what an economics degree actually involved, he hasn't yet replied to that. For these reasons I called him ignorant.

I would like to withdraw my comment dismissing Landsdale's opinion as he is an old white man who typically are pro Brexit. It wasn't well thought through. (However, on the same note you can't dismiss highly intelligent academics because they have beards and sandles!)

If I have insulted anyone I apologise or if I have been arrogant (I have occasionally been accused of this in real life (at least I'm consistent)).

But my arrogance does not in the slightest dismiss the notion that we are far better inside than outside of the EU, for many reasons given above.

Edited by big_palace_fan (05 May 2016 2.35pm)

Damn, you are being reasonable. I was looking forward to a good, old fashioned HOL lynching.

I suppose we had all better take Ken's advice now then.

 

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kenbarr Flag Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 05 May 16 2.46pm Send a Private Message to kenbarr Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add kenbarr as a friend

Thank you. I would hate to become a Hallmark salesman type of mod, a card for every occasion.

Edited by kenbarr (05 May 2016 2.50pm)

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 05 May 16 2.57pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

You sound incredibly bigoted with your random attack on old white men.

I had a good education winning places at two Universities with A levels in Pure Maths and Applied Maths. I went to work in the financial sector and was always fully employed and ambitious to succeed.

As I already explained in an earlier post my intelligence and business acumen has given me the opportunity to have retired at age 50 and for the last 12 years tinker with my own and my close family's investments which are still doing well, my house was bought and paid for decades ago.

I'll bet you don't even have a house with a big mortgage outstanding on it Mr Economics Guru.

Yet, you dismiss the advice of a self made billionaire because he's an "old white man".

Priceless.

And yet you're regular random attacks on younger generations and current students are not? You had a similar snipe at me a number of months back as I was listed as a student on Hol.

You clearly have a whole host of prejudices on students, lefties, muslims, economists, lecturers and God knows who else, so I find it very rich for you to accuse someone of bigotry.


 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 05 May 16 3.08pm

Economics seems a very relevant degree in a capitalist world. Especially given its more recent forays into social trend analysis etc.

I don't really think one degree is worth more than another, except within a specific context. Contry to popular belief, Media studies is actually quite interesting, and important, given the media saturation of society and influence on society.

No matter how well you do in Physics, it won't give you a grounding in the 'use of semantics in manufacturing political consent'. Any more than then media studies will help to understand Quantum Mechanics.

 


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kenbarr Flag Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 05 May 16 3.53pm Send a Private Message to kenbarr Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add kenbarr as a friend

Far be it for me to criticize anyone's educational background. I have a dinky old BS in Liberal Arts (History) from Excelsior College, formerly known as Regents College which is an external degree program. Therefore, whatever one has or doesn't have, I don't care. It is how one performs in society, not how much "toilet paper" (sorry, an Americanism) one has. I've experienced great wisdom from high school drop-outs.

 


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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 05 May 16 5.32pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

If Brexit will cause SOOOO much hardship to the UK, then why did David Cameron give us the chance to vote for it?

I mean, we're going to be sent back to the dark ages if we are not part of a European political union, right?

 

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JohnyBoy Flag 05 May 16 5.46pm Send a Private Message to JohnyBoy Add JohnyBoy as a friend

Originally posted by kenbarr

Far be it for me to criticize anyone's educational background. I have a dinky old BS in Liberal Arts (History) from Excelsior College, formerly known as Regents College which is an external degree program. Therefore, whatever one has or doesn't have, I don't care. It is how one performs in society, not how much "toilet paper" (sorry, an Americanism) one has. I've experienced great wisdom from high school drop-outs.

Well i too have an economics degree from one of the '3 great universities' but couldnt agree moreso, it really means jack all apart from maybe getting past the tickboxers in human resources. Its what you do on the job that counts, Would highly recommend it though cos i had a ball. Also, as a business investor i have been most sucessful in backing entrepreneurs without a single qualification. But the economics i now read i find very interesting and insightful and helps forms my opinions and perceptions so perhaps all that 'toilet paper' is actually very valuable after all

 

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Originally posted by JohnyBoy

Well i too have an economics degree from one of the '3 great universities' but couldnt agree moreso, it really means jack all apart from maybe getting past the tickboxers in human resources. Its what you do on the job that counts, Would highly recommend it though cos i had a ball. Also, as a business investor i have been most sucessful in backing entrepreneurs without a single qualification. But the economics i now read i find very interesting and insightful and helps forms my opinions and perceptions so perhaps all that 'toilet paper' is actually very valuable after all

As a tickboxer, you may be surprised how closely educational achievement and success in work match one another. I hire for attitude and ability to learn and adapt. Technical skills can be learned. It is true that it matters less what Degree someone has, it's the process of learning how to learn and proving intellectual ability that matters most.

 

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

If Brexit will cause SOOOO much hardship to the UK, then why did David Cameron give us the chance to vote for it?

I mean, we're going to be sent back to the dark ages if we are not part of a European political union, right?

Because he had to give that pledge to woo potential UKiP voters back to his side to win the last GE. And it worked. And he has kept his word.

 


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Originally posted by Mapletree

As a tickboxer, you may be surprised how closely educational achievement and success in work match one another. I hire for attitude and ability to learn and adapt. Technical skills can be learned. It is true that it matters less what Degree someone has, it's the process of learning how to learn and proving intellectual ability that matters most.


Yep true, didnt mean to be derogatory about HR. The best economist i ever worked with had a music degree. Perceptive, articulate, insightful -really quite brilliant. Left to pursue his own thing which didnt really work out. The trouble with hiring 'system' degree people who gernerally all have economics, accounting or business qualifications (in an economic or research based environment) is that you lose the mavericks (who can easily be trained on the job) and who are often the best hires IMO.

 

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