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 Badger11  Beckenham 09 Oct 19 2.58pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Leave didn’t have to win the enhance his career. He said in 2015: “I think that there is a very valid future for this country not in the EU. It’s not my preference, because there are some downsides.” - what changed between then and him declaring for leave? Also widely reported that he wrote a reveal article for both leave and remain positions prior to publicly declaring for leave; his position was dependent on benefit to him, he knew he could argue both sides well enough. We don't know what was in his mind however another way of looking at his 2 documents is that of a thoughtful man. He puts the pros and cons down on paper to crystallise his thinking, in politics this is known as opposition research. I have no problem with Corbyn writing a pro nuclear paper if that helps him understand the argument for nuclear disarmament better.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 09 Oct 19 3.02pm |
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Britain has turned against Brexit and would now vote to stay in the European Union, according to the biggest ever poll-of-polls. The YouGov analysis for the Evening Standard of 300 surveys shows “concrete” evidence that the country shifted against quitting the European bloc in the year after the June 2016 referendum and has steadfastly stuck to this position ever since. One of the most striking findings is that 204 out of 226 polls since July 2017 have shown Remain ahead, with just seven for Leave, and 15 ties. Since July 2017 the public has wanted to remain in the EU. Why can parliament simply not admit it and end the whole disaster?
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 09 Oct 19 3.13pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
We don't know what was in his mind however another way of looking at his 2 documents is that of a thoughtful man. He puts the pros and cons down on paper to crystallise his thinking, in politics this is known as opposition research. I have no problem with Corbyn writing a pro nuclear paper if that helps him understand the argument for nuclear disarmament better. Sure, or you could view it as someone with no principles who’s willing to back whichever way the wind blows to further his career. I know which one I suspect of Mr Johnson. ‘Opposition research’ is 90% of what I do on here
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 Hrolf The Ganger 09 Oct 19 3.18pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Britain has turned against Brexit and would now vote to stay in the European Union, according to the biggest ever poll-of-polls. The YouGov analysis for the Evening Standard of 300 surveys shows “concrete” evidence that the country shifted against quitting the European bloc in the year after the June 2016 referendum and has steadfastly stuck to this position ever since. One of the most striking findings is that 204 out of 226 polls since July 2017 have shown Remain ahead, with just seven for Leave, and 15 ties. Since July 2017 the public has wanted to remain in the EU. Why can parliament simply not admit it and end the whole disaster? Too bad since the referendum was in 2016. We would have been out of Europe long ago if it wasn't for Remainers.
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| W12 09 Oct 19 3.37pm | |
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It’s amazing how quickly things are going south. These people are terrifying.
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palace_in_frogland  In a broken dream 09 Oct 19 3.51pm |
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Originally posted by W12
It’s amazing how quickly things are going south. These people are terrifying. Am I being thick, or does that article date from March 2001?
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| chris123 hove actually 09 Oct 19 3.55pm |
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Originally posted by W12
It’s amazing how quickly things are going south. These people are terrifying. That's from 18 years ago though???
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 09 Oct 19 3.56pm |
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Originally posted by palace_in_frogland
Am I being thick, or does that article date from March 2001? hahaha. You are not. Unbelievable. Doesn't even read the article properly – how are people expected to take others seriously if they simply post headlines? That said, it doesn't surprise me.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 09 Oct 19 4.11pm |
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Originally posted by W12
It’s amazing how quickly things are going south. These people are terrifying. 18 years isn’t that quickly to be fair.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Oct 19 4.44pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
hahaha. You are not. Unbelievable. Doesn't even read the article properly – how are people expected to take others seriously if they simply post headlines? That said, it doesn't surprise me. But we should have seen the signs back then.
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| elgrande bedford 09 Oct 19 4.47pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's been a while since I spent any time in the East End and a year or two since I even passed through but I watch the TV reports just like everyone else. Dealing with illegal immigration is obviously a big problem but I cannot see why ending freedom of movement will help with that as we already have border controls which check everyone. Except the illegals. As a young man I went to college in Whitechapel and have drunk a beer in the Blind Beggar. All at the time when the Krays ruled the roost running the most insidious protection rackets. The Krays were 100% British. You cant see freedom of movement being a problem....really.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Oct 19 4.51pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
You cant see freedom of movement being a problem....really. Indeed.
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