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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Mar 20 9.20am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by dannyboy1978 What are we arguing about here? Dad punches man who groped his daughter? Are there people actually not standing up for the dad? Those people need to take a long hard look at theif selves. No. We are talking about "Robinson", a man with a well known history alleging that someone groped his daughter who then allegedly took the law into his own hands by punching him. The Police need to be allowed to do their job. They are under pressure and response times are now often extended. As we all know some responses are now just by phone with a crime number given. Priorities have to be decided. By them and not by us. Whatever the alleged provocation restraint needs to be shown. By everyone at all times. Violent behaviour can NEVER be justified. That "Robinson" videoed the Police response and published it online raises huge questions in my mind about his motivations. He has previous which justifies those questions. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 05 Mar 20 9.20am

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Originally posted by dannyboy1978

What are we arguing about here?
Dad punches man who groped his daughter?

Are there people actually not standing up for the dad?

Those people need to take a long hard look at theif selves.

No.

We are talking about "Robinson", a man with a well known history alleging that someone groped his daughter who then allegedly took the law into his own hands by punching him.

The Police need to be allowed to do their job. They are under pressure and response times are now often extended. As we all know some responses are now just by phone with a crime number given. Priorities have to be decided. By them and not by us.

Whatever the alleged provocation restraint needs to be shown. By everyone at all times. Violent behaviour can NEVER be justified.

That "Robinson" videoed the Police response and published it online raises huge questions in my mind about his motivations. He has previous which justifies those questions.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Mar 20 9.24am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by ASCPFC If it's true, I totally agree with him and would do the same myself. Last year I went on holiday to Italy, was at the pool and my son and his friend came crying to me about a guy who had thrown their towels off their loungers and shouted at them [German of course]. I'll never forget that guy's face when I spoke a few words to him. Needless to say, he put the towels back on himself and apologised. Rather different example isn't it? Shaming someone with a few well chosen words isn't punching them and then videoing the Police when they arrest you for doing so and publishing it online. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 05 Mar 20 9.24am

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

If it's true, I totally agree with him and would do the same myself.
Last year I went on holiday to Italy, was at the pool and my son and his friend came crying to me about a guy who had thrown their towels off their loungers and shouted at them [German of course]. I'll never forget that guy's face when I spoke a few words to him. Needless to say, he put the towels back on himself and apologised.

Rather different example isn't it?

Shaming someone with a few well chosen words isn't punching them and then videoing the Police when they arrest you for doing so and publishing it online.

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Badger11 Beckenham 05 Mar 20 9.27am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle No. We are talking about "Robinson", a man with a well known history alleging that someone groped his daughter who then allegedly took the law into his own hands by punching him. The Police need to be allowed to do their job. They are under pressure and response times are now often extended. As we all know some responses are now just by phone with a crime number given. Priorities have to be decided. By them and not by us. Whatever the alleged provocation restraint needs to be shown. By everyone at all times. Violent behaviour can NEVER be justified. That "Robinson" videoed the Police response and published it online raises huge questions in my mind about his motivations. He has previous which justifies those questions. Really tell that to the members of the public who bravely take on terrorists who are stabbing innocent people. My take is simple if there is proof that this guy groped Robinson's daughter he was entitled to defend her and any other kids until the police arrived, if there is proof. Edited by Badger11 (05 Mar 2020 9.28am) One more point
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No.

We are talking about "Robinson", a man with a well known history alleging that someone groped his daughter who then allegedly took the law into his own hands by punching him.

Whatever the alleged provocation restraint needs to be shown. By everyone at all times. Violent behaviour can NEVER be justified.

That "Robinson" videoed the Police response and published it online raises huge questions in my mind about his motivations. He has previous which justifies those questions.

Really tell that to the members of the public who bravely take on terrorists who are stabbing innocent people.

My take is simple if there is proof that this guy groped Robinson's daughter he was entitled to defend her and any other kids until the police arrived, if there is proof.

Edited by Badger11 (05 Mar 2020 9.28am)

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Stirlingsays 05 Mar 20 9.29am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle If we can put these people only into Cornwall, directly around WE then I'd consider that a positive. People need to live their principles. [Tweet Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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If we can put these people only into Cornwall, directly around WE then I'd consider that a positive. People need to live their principles.

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Badger11 Beckenham 05 Mar 20 9.32am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays If we can put these people only into Cornwall, directly around WE then I'd consider that a positive. People need to live their principles. [Tweet Link] I'm surprised the EU is giving them free trains passes to London. One more point
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If we can put these people only into Cornwall, directly around WE then I'd consider that a positive. People need to live their principles.

[Tweet Link]

I'm surprised the EU is giving them free trains passes to London.

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Badger11 Beckenham 05 Mar 20 9.50am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays If we can put these people only into Cornwall, directly around WE then I'd consider that a positive. People need to live their principles. [Tweet Link] It's a bit harsh what have the people of Cornwall ever done to you? Besides haven't the people of Truro already taken one for the team! One more point
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If we can put these people only into Cornwall, directly around WE then I'd consider that a positive. People need to live their principles.

[Tweet Link]

It's a bit harsh what have the people of Cornwall ever done to you? Besides haven't the people of Truro already taken one for the team!

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Stirlingsays 05 Mar 20 10.07am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Badger11 It's a bit harsh what have the people of Cornwall ever done to you? Besides haven't the people of Truro already taken one for the team! All true of course.....but I'm afraid it's time for low empathy. If they'd give him up for replanting into Savile Town, I'd reconsider. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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05 Mar 20 10.07am

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Originally posted by Badger11

It's a bit harsh what have the people of Cornwall ever done to you? Besides haven't the people of Truro already taken one for the team!

All true of course.....but I'm afraid it's time for low empathy. If they'd give him up for replanting into Savile Town, I'd reconsider.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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PalazioVecchio south pole 05 Mar 20 10.42am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays Race is a major factor for those who committed these crimes. You're an apologist to ignore it. Islam is not a race , neither is communism. If many of these paedophiles are Muslim then it is a statistically significant 'coincidence ? Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Race is a major factor for those who committed these crimes. You're an apologist to ignore it.

Islam is not a race , neither is communism. If many of these paedophiles are Muslim then it is a statistically significant 'coincidence ?

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Stirlingsays 05 Mar 20 11.02am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Islam is not a race , neither is communism. If many of these paedophiles are Muslim then it is a statistically significant 'coincidence ? That's right, Islam isn't a race. You would have to go back and read the exchange to see the context. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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05 Mar 20 11.02am

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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Islam is not a race , neither is communism. If many of these paedophiles are Muslim then it is a statistically significant 'coincidence ?

That's right, Islam isn't a race. You would have to go back and read the exchange to see the context.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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PalazioVecchio south pole 05 Mar 20 11.15am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays That's right, Islam isn't a race. You would have to go back and read the exchange to see the context. It is not racist to criticise a belief system. Be it communism, nazi-ism , or Islam. All are open to criticism , and where justified....scorn. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 05 Mar 20 11.15am

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That's right, Islam isn't a race. You would have to go back and read the exchange to see the context.

It is not racist to criticise a belief system. Be it communism, nazi-ism , or Islam.

All are open to criticism , and where justified....scorn.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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cryrst The garden of England 05 Mar 20 11.41am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle No. We are talking about "Robinson", a man with a well known history alleging that someone groped his daughter who then allegedly took the law into his own hands by punching him. The Police need to be allowed to do their job. They are under pressure and response times are now often extended. As we all know some responses are now just by phone with a crime number given. Priorities have to be decided. By them and not by us. Whatever the alleged provocation restraint needs to be shown. By everyone at all times. Violent behaviour can NEVER be justified. That "Robinson" videoed the Police response and published it online raises huge questions in my mind about his motivations. He has previous which justifies those questions. So your son is out shopping and someone groped your granddaughter. Your son does nothing but get on the phone to plod. The guy runs away. He tells you while your granddaughter is in bits crying and contemplating becoming a hermit, and you pat him on the back saying "Never mind son, you did the correct thing in the circumstances" Your granddaughter now hates her dad for not defending her,she hates you because you think your son was correct and there's a fella running around; of whatever colour because we cant highlight that,touching up women. Your world is very weird.
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The garden of England 05 Mar 20 11.41am

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No.

We are talking about "Robinson", a man with a well known history alleging that someone groped his daughter who then allegedly took the law into his own hands by punching him.

Whatever the alleged provocation restraint needs to be shown. By everyone at all times. Violent behaviour can NEVER be justified.

That "Robinson" videoed the Police response and published it online raises huge questions in my mind about his motivations. He has previous which justifies those questions.

So your son is out shopping and someone groped your granddaughter.
Your son does nothing but get on the phone to plod.
The guy runs away.
He tells you while your granddaughter is in bits crying and contemplating becoming a hermit, and you pat him on the back saying
"Never mind son, you did the correct thing in the circumstances"
Your granddaughter now hates her dad for not defending her,she hates you because you think your son was correct and there's a fella running around; of whatever colour because we cant highlight that,touching up women.
Your world is very weird.

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samprior Hamburg 05 Mar 20 12.15pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst So your son is out shopping and someone groped your granddaughter. Your son does nothing but get on the phone to plod. The guy runs away. He tells you while your granddaughter is in bits crying and contemplating becoming a hermit, and you pat him on the back saying "Never mind son, you did the correct thing in the circumstances" Your granddaughter now hates her dad for not defending her,she hates you because you think your son was correct and there's a fella running around; of whatever colour because we cant highlight that,touching up women. Your world is very weird. Tbh so is a world in which we post imaginary groping stories in an online forum. I'd be inclined to just go with the 'all paedophiles are bad' tagline so that we can concentrate on protecting those who are vulnerable.
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Hamburg 05 Mar 20 12.15pm